Alucard and Integra(Hellsing) enter the Holy Grail War

Topic started by MrASSH0LE on Aug. 16, 2014. Last post by Dream 4 weeks ago.
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Alucard and Integra
Alucard and Integra

V.s.

                                                                                          

 

GAUNTLET STYLE


 
1.Assassin and Kirei Kotomine

2.Lancer and Kayneth El-Melloi Archibald

3.Berserker and Kariya Matou

4.Saber and Emiya Kiritsugu

5.Rider and Waver Violet

6.Caster and Ryuunosuke Uryuu

7.Gilgamesh and Tokiomi Tohsaka

8.Gilgamesh and Kirei Kotomine

9.All of them unite to take him on.

CONDITIONS

-Pre-Schrodinger
 
-Speed equalized

-Fate/Zero versions of everyone

-No knowledge is given

-Everyone is in character

-9 days of preparation for Fate/Zero characters

-LOCATION: Fuyuki City

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Survives up to match 4. An Excaliblast would be too much for Alucard to withstand.

Post by ReiKai (3,515 posts) See mini bio Level 10
I can't see Alucard as even capable of killing Berserker. Alucard would have to specifically target their Magus to get anywhere, and Integra gets killed in like every match. Lancer would kill'er almost instantly with a Gae Bolg, to which Alucard would not be able to stop it.
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@ReiKai: These are the Fate/Zero versions. Hercules and Cu Cthulan aren't involved.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,616 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Dream: Actually, Kotomine's black keys would ruin Alucard since they stop regen, he wouldn't get past the first fight like this.

Post by Kobra678 (3,174 posts) See mini bio Level 15
Black keys are so annoying to think about. Mainly since the regeneration of Fate/Zero is not the same as every other franchise. Would they work on someone like Deadpool, Hulk, Wolverine, or Alucard? I suppose if they do then he stops at round 1.
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@CerusSerenade: Doubtful. Alucard's shown a high level of resistance to holy weapons within his title and the Black Keys are known for having weak attack power, unless used against spirits.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,616 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Dream: I wouldn't consider Arcueid weak.

Also, Black Keys are conceptual weapons, something Alucard has shown no resistance against.

Considering that bullets do hurt Alucard, he just doesn't care since he can regen almost infinitely, this will catch him by surprise at least.

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@CerusSerenade: Ciel is leagues above Kirei in terms of magical proficiency as the latter lacks the ability to enchant the Black Keys with magical effects like Ciel can. You can't exactly say the two are one and the same in terms of skills and physical capabilities.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,616 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Dream: Certainly he could reach a similar height with command seals though.

Regardless, Alucard is in almost all ways inferior to Arcueid, and even some of the dead apostles like Nero, and the black keys could hurt them. Odds are more times than not that the Black Keys work on Alucard.

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@CerusSerenade:

Also, Black Keys are conceptual weapons, something Alucard has shown no resistance against.

Conceptual weapons are made in mind to counteract a single soul's immortal status. You seem to forget that Alucard is a collective of the millions of souls that were slain throughout the centuries he has been alive and Black Keys are known for being the bottom of the barrel in terms of attack strength and proficiency, thus I doubt they can effect Alucard.

Regardless, Alucard is in almost all ways inferior to Arcueid

One of the few things I agree with, though I find this to be an unfair comparison since Arcueid's an abstract being who is a life-wiper at her full power.

even some of the dead apostles like Nero, and the black keys could hurt them.

Now we seem to be downplaying Alucard. Nero would be comparable to Alucard in terms of the collective status they have. In addition, Ciel's Black Keys were having no effect on Nero when she combated him as Nero's body isn't the typical variety of Dead Apostle due to being a manifestation of chaos. Dealing with Alucard via Black Keys would be no different in that regard.

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@Kobra678: The way Black Keys work as a conceptual weapon are that they apply a predetermined logic to the immortality of spiritual/ undead beings in order to inflict harm on them and make regeneration difficult for them. I doubt this would work on anything like mutants with an extended lifespan granted via their mutations (Wolverine and Deadpool) or those who gain immortality from an abstract or godlike being like Thor and Juggernaut.

Post by flashback180 (646 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Stops at Caster or Gilgamesh .Gilgamesh never goes all out, even if he has million + weapons.

and it depends if saber goes all out from the start ,fate/stay night version she cold one shot all of them.

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@flashback180: Saber's stronger in attributes with Kiritsugu as her Master than she was with Shiro.

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@Dream: IIRC Kiritsugu always had avalon , saber in fate/zero was never at her full power.

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@flashback180: Yes, but Avalon only functions as a defense for Saber and gives constant regeneration to those close to her while in their possession. Fail to see what significance it would have in enhancing her otherwise.

Post by flashback180 (646 posts) See mini bio Level 14

@Dream: fact is she couldn't defeat Gilgamesh with just the Excalibur . It was only after she revived avalon form Shiro that she was able to overpower him.Avalon clearly boosts Excalibur attack,She had already lost to Gilgamesh before.

Post by taichokage (13,233 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Even if Regen is cancelled, that doesn't do away with Alucard's legion of souls. While he might not recover from the damage I don't imagine that would kill him. Pre Schrodinger was weaker but he's still a threat IMO.
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@Dream said:

Survives up to match 4. An Excaliblast would be too much for Alucard to withstand.

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@flashback180: The Avalon+Excalibur combo still relies on Saber finding the right timing to connect with an attack on Gilgamesh as Ea can still easily overpower her best Excaliblast and Avalon's cast time being a small time period. Also, a fully serious Gil would have slaughtered Saber rather easily.

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