Alex Mercer [Prototype] vs Kimimaro

Topic started by Nerx on Jan. 9, 2010. Last post by BattleHeiz 4 years, 6 months ago.
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@John_Martone said:
" @rein said:
" Mercer is nearly indestructible (  regenerated from a single atom in the direct explosion of a nuclear bomb) He has been shown to lift and throw tanks, helicopters, and cars with ease. He is Fast, As shown by the ability to cross NYC on foot In a matter of minutes ( time has not been scaled, but it can be assumed that he is faster then A Car.)  i say mercer wins this. "
I dunno, I still assume that Mercer can indeed die. From a game perspective he can die from something as simple as being riddled with machine gun fire. What makes him nearly indestructible is his ability to constantly absorb new matter to power his regeneration/tentacle attacks.  I.E. He is a badass not because he can't be hurt, but because he tanks a bunch of damage and then grabs fleshy things to patch up his holes. This is an advantage he doesn't possess in the hyperbolic time chamber. "
he can regen on his own as far as i know
Post by rein (5,465 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@cfatalis said:
" @John_Martone said:
" @rein said:
" Mercer is nearly indestructible (  regenerated from a single atom in the direct explosion of a nuclear bomb) He has been shown to lift and throw tanks, helicopters, and cars with ease. He is Fast, As shown by the ability to cross NYC on foot In a matter of minutes ( time has not been scaled, but it can be assumed that he is faster then A Car.)  i say mercer wins this. "
I dunno, I still assume that Mercer can indeed die. From a game perspective he can die from something as simple as being riddled with machine gun fire. What makes him nearly indestructible is his ability to constantly absorb new matter to power his regeneration/tentacle attacks.  I.E. He is a badass not because he can't be hurt, but because he tanks a bunch of damage and then grabs fleshy things to patch up his holes. This is an advantage he doesn't possess in the hyperbolic time chamber. "
he can regen on his own as far as i know "
yeah, you can but that ability.
Post by Alexman113 (115 posts) See mini bio Level 4
@rein said:

"Mercer is nearly indestructible (  regenerated from a single atom in the direct explosion of a nuclear bomb) He has been shown to lift and throw tanks, helicopters, and cars with ease. He is Fast, As shown by the ability to cross NYC on foot In a matter of minutes ( time has not been scaled, but it can be assumed that he is faster then A Car.)  i say mercer wins this. "


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How can Kimimaro beat this? He has no energy attacks. Everything he does, Mercer will just regen. Mercer takes this.
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@rein said:
" @cfatalis said:
" @John_Martone said:
" @rein said:
" Mercer is nearly indestructible (  regenerated from a single atom in the direct explosion of a nuclear bomb) He has been shown to lift and throw tanks, helicopters, and cars with ease. He is Fast, As shown by the ability to cross NYC on foot In a matter of minutes ( time has not been scaled, but it can be assumed that he is faster then A Car.)  i say mercer wins this. "
I dunno, I still assume that Mercer can indeed die. From a game perspective he can die from something as simple as being riddled with machine gun fire. What makes him nearly indestructible is his ability to constantly absorb new matter to power his regeneration/tentacle attacks.  I.E. He is a badass not because he can't be hurt, but because he tanks a bunch of damage and then grabs fleshy things to patch up his holes. This is an advantage he doesn't possess in the hyperbolic time chamber. "
he can regen on his own as far as i know "
yeah, you can but that ability. "
oh and he have that armor form
Post by BattleHeiz (5,765 posts) See mini bio Level 15
dude merecer can die in game cause who wants to play a game there you are immortal and can't be killed?
Blade Arms  when Zeus turn his hands into razor sharp blades which are used to mutilate his enemies in a brutal fashion. He acquired this ability by absorbing a mutant, adding its genetic code to his own
armor - Encases Alex in a shell of armor which is resistant to damage and increases Alex's strength. While in this phase Zeus may sprint, building up his momentum to push aside obstacles such as tanks and other vehicles. He acquired this ability by absorbing a Lead hunter    
Ground Spikes Alex channels his biomass through the ground that will erupt to pierce his enemies, this is effective on multiple targets. The ground spikes are also increasingly effective against armored targets such as tanks and heavy transport.
  • Tentacles - Alex produces tentacles from his body that will impale all who are within reach. Drains and consumes the victims it touches.
  • Glide - Being a shape-shifter Alex can alter his density and make himself very light enough to glide on wind. This helps him navigate through the city much easier. 
  • Enhanced- Alex's strength, agility, senses, stamina, endurance are all enhanced above normal.
  • Dense Control- This grants Alex a level of superhuman strength, he can also increase this by shape-shifting into something bigger. He can also make himself very light to the point where he can glide and cover much area easier.
  • Power Mimicry - One of Alex's primary abilities is the ability to take other people's abilities when he consumes people he actually 'Downloads' their entire genetic code and adds it to his own, this gives him everything the enemy possessed, Intellect, Abilities, Strength, Agility.......Most of his abilities, The claws, The armor etc were all in fact stolen from the mutated creatures he consumed. this is apparent in the game
  • Super smell/ Super sight/ Super hearing - Alex has advanced sensory abilities.
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@battleheiz: I think they're more similar than you'd give them credit for. 
 
Kimimaro can also adjust his bone density at will, making himself heavier/lighter 
He can reshape himself into "armor" forms as well as arm blades, etc.
Super fast
"bone" tentacles
He even has a super tentacle attack similar to Mercers
 
In a setting were Mercer can't just grab tasty snack flesh bags (the Hyperbolic Time Chamber) I think we're KO'ing his biggest advanatage, since obvious shapeshifting won't do him any good, and the game illustrates that his super attacks from from health... 
 
Plus, I still maintain that the world of anime, shonen ninjas would be, by large, a completely different game for Mercer, who has never had to deal with people who effortlessly clone themselves, have shadows that can control your motion, summon familiars.
 
Sure, people haven't fired a gun or rocket launch at kimaro... but I think he'd be used to the idea.
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@John_Martone said:
" @battleheiz: I think they're more similar than you'd give them credit for.   Kimimaro can also adjust his bone density at will, making himself heavier/lighter  He can reshape himself into "armor" forms as well as arm blades, etc.Super fast "bone" tentacles He even has a super tentacle attack similar to Mercers  In a setting were Mercer can't just grab tasty snack flesh bags (the Hyperbolic Time Chamber) I think we're KO'ing his biggest advanatage, since obvious shapeshifting won't do him any good, and the game illustrates that his super attacks from from health...   Plus, I still maintain that the world of anime, shonen ninjas would be, by large, a completely different game for Mercer, who has never had to deal with people who effortlessly clone themselves, have shadows that can control your motion, summon familiars.  Sure, people haven't fired a gun or rocket launch at kimaro... but I think he'd be used to the idea. "
tentacle? no, kimimaro kekkei allows him to use bones as weapons, not extension of his own body, e.g he cannot make it bend at will, the super tentacle attack look more like it's groundspike not the tendril barrage devastator
Post by BattleHeiz (5,765 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@John_Martone:
guys as i already said in game he is weaker cause it's a game read comcics if you want to know how strong he is.
and he can absorb any other ninja and know what they know so he will be smarter and who said that kimimaro can heal?
he cant heal or regenerate like mercer and he can't jump as high like mercer and he can't absorb 60 man with his tentacels and also mercer can build up pressure enough to destroy tank and than release it.
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@battleheiz: Hey, I gotcha, though I'd like to still believe he is capable of being felled.
 
I mean, he is amazingly powerful, no one is refuting that, but I still think you can't just write in that he's invincible just because it'd be unfun in a game if he was.
 
Kimimaro can't "heal" per say, but his bones regenerate, and are super dense/durable when he wills it, so he can't break bones, and can just hold any other wound together with bone.
 
Besides, its in Mercer's mythos that he can't just absorb anything at any time. Weak beings, sure, but as OP set up, they are in a confined setting where he doesn't have access to anything to absorb, anything. If they were in downtown new york, sure, Mercer will win the long game no question, but see, I guess this is why cross genre is hard, since Mercer's world and Kimimaro's world are completely different.
 
Granted I haven't read the comics, but Mercer is essentially in a league all his own in the video games. Only one person every provides a seemingly significant challenge, and that was a very special exception. Everything else was quantity over quality. So, in Mercer's world, he is god. In the ninja world, they all tend to have reality altering techniques which would fry his brain. Like, they deal with the fact that one person can look you into the eyes and put you in a coma, or control your body by touching shadows, or ressurect the dead?
 
The fact that they are considerably more used to reality altering techniques lets me think this isn't a stomp. It really just seems like this is the worst possible situation for Mercer to be in, and that is why it is "possible" for him to lose.
Post by BattleHeiz (5,765 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@John_Martone:
1. mercers blade are not bones like his claws
2.slice kimimaro and he will die from blood lost
3. mercer survived  i dont realy remmeber what bomb was that but it destroyd half new york
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@John_Martone said:
" @battleheiz: Hey, I gotcha, though I'd like to still believe he is capable of being felled.  I mean, he is amazingly powerful, no one is refuting that, but I still think you can't just write in that he's invincible just because it'd be unfun in a game if he was.  Kimimaro can't "heal" per say, but his bones regenerate, and are super dense/durable when he wills it, so he can't break bones, and can just hold any other wound together with bone.  Besides, its in Mercer's mythos that he can't just absorb anything at any time. Weak beings, sure, but as OP set up, they are in a confined setting where he doesn't have access to anything to absorb, anything. If they were in downtown new york, sure, Mercer will win the long game no question, but see, I guess this is why cross genre is hard, since Mercer's world and Kimimaro's world are completely different.  Granted I haven't read the comics, but Mercer is essentially in a league all his own in the video games. Only one person every provides a seemingly significant challenge, and that was a very special exception. Everything else was quantity over quality. So, in Mercer's world, he is god. In the ninja world, they all tend to have reality altering techniques which would fry his brain. Like, they deal with the fact that one person can look you into the eyes and put you in a coma, or control your body by touching shadows, or ressurect the dead?  The fact that they are considerably more used to reality altering techniques lets me think this isn't a stomp. It really just seems like this is the worst possible situation for Mercer to be in, and that is why it is "possible" for him to lose. "
actually three person can fight mercer in a equal footing
 
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Post by BattleHeiz (5,765 posts) See mini bio Level 15
so mercer wins right?
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
i think so
Post by BattleHeiz (5,765 posts) See mini bio Level 15
thats what i am talking about
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