Battles

" @rein said:

" Mercer is nearly indestructible (  regenerated from a single atom in the direct explosion of a nuclear bomb) He has been shown to lift and throw tanks, helicopters, and cars with ease. He is Fast, As shown by the ability to cross NYC on foot In a matter of minutes ( time has not been scaled, but it can be assumed that he is faster then A Car.)  i say mercer wins this. "

I dunno, I still assume that Mercer can indeed die. From a game perspective he can die from something as simple as being riddled with machine gun fire. What makes him nearly indestructible is his ability to constantly absorb new matter to power his regeneration/tentacle attacks.  I.E. He is a badass not because he can't be hurt, but because he tanks a bunch of damage and then grabs fleshy things to patch up his holes. This is an advantage he doesn't possess in the hyperbolic time chamber. "

" @John_Martone said:

" @rein said:

" Mercer is nearly indestructible (  regenerated from a single atom in the direct explosion of a nuclear bomb) He has been shown to lift and throw tanks, helicopters, and cars with ease. He is Fast, As shown by the ability to cross NYC on foot In a matter of minutes ( time has not been scaled, but it can be assumed that he is faster then A Car.)  i say mercer wins this. "

I dunno, I still assume that Mercer can indeed die. From a game perspective he can die from something as simple as being riddled with machine gun fire. What makes him nearly indestructible is his ability to constantly absorb new matter to power his regeneration/tentacle attacks.  I.E. He is a badass not because he can't be hurt, but because he tanks a bunch of damage and then grabs fleshy things to patch up his holes. This is an advantage he doesn't possess in the hyperbolic time chamber. "

he can regen on his own as far as i know "

" @cfatalis said:

" @John_Martone said:

" @rein said:

" Mercer is nearly indestructible (  regenerated from a single atom in the direct explosion of a nuclear bomb) He has been shown to lift and throw tanks, helicopters, and cars with ease. He is Fast, As shown by the ability to cross NYC on foot In a matter of minutes ( time has not been scaled, but it can be assumed that he is faster then A Car.)  i say mercer wins this. "

I dunno, I still assume that Mercer can indeed die. From a game perspective he can die from something as simple as being riddled with machine gun fire. What makes him nearly indestructible is his ability to constantly absorb new matter to power his regeneration/tentacle attacks.  I.E. He is a badass not because he can't be hurt, but because he tanks a bunch of damage and then grabs fleshy things to patch up his holes. This is an advantage he doesn't possess in the hyperbolic time chamber. "

he can regen on his own as far as i know "

yeah, you can but that ability. "

" @battleheiz: I think they're more similar than you'd give them credit for.   Kimimaro can also adjust his bone density at will, making himself heavier/lighter  He can reshape himself into "armor" forms as well as arm blades, etc.Super fast "bone" tentacles He even has a super tentacle attack similar to Mercers  In a setting were Mercer can't just grab tasty snack flesh bags (the Hyperbolic Time Chamber) I think we're KO'ing his biggest advanatage, since obvious shapeshifting won't do him any good, and the game illustrates that his super attacks from from health...   Plus, I still maintain that the world of anime, shonen ninjas would be, by large, a completely different game for Mercer, who has never had to deal with people who effortlessly clone themselves, have shadows that can control your motion, summon familiars.  Sure, people haven't fired a gun or rocket launch at kimaro... but I think he'd be used to the idea. "

" @battleheiz: Hey, I gotcha, though I'd like to still believe he is capable of being felled.  I mean, he is amazingly powerful, no one is refuting that, but I still think you can't just write in that he's invincible just because it'd be unfun in a game if he was.  Kimimaro can't "heal" per say, but his bones regenerate, and are super dense/durable when he wills it, so he can't break bones, and can just hold any other wound together with bone.  Besides, its in Mercer's mythos that he can't just absorb anything at any time. Weak beings, sure, but as OP set up, they are in a confined setting where he doesn't have access to anything to absorb, anything. If they were in downtown new york, sure, Mercer will win the long game no question, but see, I guess this is why cross genre is hard, since Mercer's world and Kimimaro's world are completely different.  Granted I haven't read the comics, but Mercer is essentially in a league all his own in the video games. Only one person every provides a seemingly significant challenge, and that was a very special exception. Everything else was quantity over quality. So, in Mercer's world, he is god. In the ninja world, they all tend to have reality altering techniques which would fry his brain. Like, they deal with the fact that one person can look you into the eyes and put you in a coma, or control your body by touching shadows, or ressurect the dead?  The fact that they are considerably more used to reality altering techniques lets me think this isn't a stomp. It really just seems like this is the worst possible situation for Mercer to be in, and that is why it is "possible" for him to lose. "