Fairy Tail sucks (this is only my opinion don't hate)

Topic started by MrASSH0LE on Nov. 6, 2010. Last post by takashichea 9 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,321 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Fairy Tail , the show is too comedy orientated it litterally can't be taken seriously.There is absolutely no blood nor is there anybody dying in it. And yes blood not being there is something I can ignore but there so many moments in the show that do not make sense without it. How can Erza cut poeples without them bleeding ? Also the use of fire is very to the one in Pokémon wich means someone will get brutally burned and yet recovers a second after . The other thing I dont stand is the absence of any real purpose . In FMA(B) the plot is to get Al and Ed's bodies back,in Naruto it is to get Sasuke and to become Hokage , Fairy Tail lacks that. Another thing I am not very much a fan of is the fact that they dont seem to seperate seriousness and comedy. 
Example: Lucy and her celestial gardiens, they all look silly except the maid and how come the cow is a male?So basically Lucy as a lesbian cow always hitting on her lol 
Yes animes do have a lot of comedy hell even Death NOTE had its share of comedy with Misa but it wouldn't  interferewith serious battle scenes or plots twists.
Post by sickVisionz (4,241 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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I think it sucks as well, although I don't share any of your opinions on why it sucks. 
 
The Good: Lucy and Happy are funny 
The Bad: Every other character, every character has some ultra-cheesy-sob-story background as a troubled child (this is getting old imo), fight animation is shoddy (at least up to episode 32) and it really is a pretty blatant copycat rip off of One Piece.
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,321 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@sickVisionz:
I pretty much only like Lucy for her boobs lmao
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,321 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@sickVisionz:
Also I think Happy is like the celestial gardiens, I personnally didnt watch One Piece yet I do intent on doing so.
Post by mr_monday (205 posts) See mini bio Level 6
First of all: I like Fairy Tail
But to be honest, is has it weak points, I cant deny that.
 
The fights are pretty much "ooooh I gonna fight you. Oooooh you're too strong. Wait I got the power of friendship I can beat you. Oh, I already won with one strike, after you hitted me like half a million times" . It can really get kind of silly.
 
It's true, Fairy Tail has not the strongest characters, not the best battles, not the best story, not the best comedy. But you know what - I still really like it. It's not the best show ever, but it's definitivly not the worst show either.
 
Oh and mrassh0le, if you don't like Fairy Tail, why does your avatar look a little bit like Gèrard :-D
Post by Kuma_From_Argentina (6,641 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@mrassh0le said:
" Fairy Tail , the show is too comedy orientated it litterally can't be taken seriously.There is absolutely no blood nor is there anybody dying in it. And yes blood not being there is something I can ignore but there so many moments in the show that do not make sense without it. How can Erza cut poeples without them bleeding ? Also the use of fire is very to the one in Pokémon wich means someone will get brutally burned and yet recovers a second after . The other thing I dont stand is the absence of any real purpose . In FMA(B) the plot is to get Al and Ed's bodies back,in Naruto it is to get Sasuke and to become Hokage , Fairy Tail lacks that. Another thing I am not very much a fan of is the fact that they dont seem to seperate seriousness and comedy. Example: Lucy and her celestial gardiens, they all look silly except the maid and how come the cow is a male?So basically Lucy as a lesbian cow always hitting on her lol Yes animes do have a lot of comedy hell even Death NOTE had its share of comedy with Misa but it wouldn't with serious battle scenes or plots twists. "
Taurus is a bull, and there are spotted bulls, the Ion is cool as hell, the others are weird since it reflects their user tastes, so the true guilty is Lucy. You can compare Death Note with Fairy Tail, they are from different genres, is like trying to compare To-love-Ru with Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Natsu haves the purpose of finding his foster parent Igneel, Lucy wanted to become a Guild celestial mage and now she tries to become the best at it, Erza is devoted to Fairy Tail, Gray wanted to take out Deliora, and he finally did (or something like that) Each character haves a motivation of their own, it sometimes can be stupid but the thing I like the most in Fairy Tail is that there isnt a clear protagonist, The blood is something more of the anime, in the manga there is lot of blood, kind like Rave Master, Mashima previous work.
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,321 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@Kuma_From_Argentina said:
" @mrassh0le said:
Taurus is a bull, and there are spotted bulls, the Ion is cool as hell, the others are weird since it reflects their user tastes, so the true guilty is Lucy. You can compare Death Note with Fairy Tail, they are from different genres, is like trying to compare To-love-Ru with Tengen Toppa Gurren LagannNatsu haves the purpose of finding his foster parent Igneel, Lucy wanted to become a Guild celestial mage and now she tries to become the best at it, Erza is devoted to Fairy Tail, Gray wanted to take out Deliora, and he finally did (or something like that) Each character haves a motivation of their own, it sometimes can be stupid but the thing I like the most in Fairy Tail is that there isnt a clear protagonist, The blood is something more of the anime, in the manga there is lot of blood, kind like Rave Master, Mashima previous work. "

1-Hurray Lucy has only two Celestial gardiens that don't look more ridiculous then Edward Cullen at a vampire party hosted by Alucard and what do you mean it is Lucy's fault?She is a fictionnal character the author of Fairy Tail could have very easily changed that.  
2-I compared Fairy tail with Naruto,Death Note,FMA and FMAB. Also in this situation I am criticizing the lack of purpose in the show animes wheter they are of the DN genre or the typical shonen have a purpose.If I would by example have critisized the lack of power ups and fights in DN your argument would have been good. 
3-Gray didn't even care about Deliora he was fine with it being trapped in ice, the one that wanted to take it out was his sibling-apprentice.Erza being devoted to Fairy Tail is not a purpose saying it is would be like saying House being a jerk in House M.D is a purpose those are simple character traits. 
4-Umm no maybe it is because I am not advanced enough in the anime but they mentionned Igneel in the second episode and that is it so much for purpose :( 
5-Natsu is obviously the protagonist therefore the purpose of the anime is his purpose Lucy wanting to be best is irrelevant .

Post by MrASSH0LE (2,321 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@mr_monday:
just changed my avatar to Alucard
Post by Kuma_From_Argentina (6,641 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@mrassh0le:  People like you are impossbile to have a normal debate with....
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,321 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@Kuma_From_Argentina:
You could not give any reason why I was wrong you just relied on personnal attacks.What do you even mean by "poeple like me"  all of the things I said are true.Yes, number one was a bit synical but that's it.
Post by Kuma_From_Argentina (6,641 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@mrassh0le:  I told you the objective of Natsu when you talked about the lack of purpose, you simply ignored it, If you dont like the cleestial spiritis it doesnt get the series to be bad, You start saying about how you need to speak of Battles and power ups to compare it to DN, something that is pretty impossible to compare since they are different genres... 
 
Gray cared as a boy, he changed his mind after his teacher death, but either that was originally his objective, and was ready to use his forbidden technique to seal it, Erza Devotion to Fairy Tail, as wanting to help her firend and comrades and the guild is a valid objective, but you simply ignore it  
 
If you watch the series without complaining by any point you will note that the protagonist role shift from time to time, just like One Piece, but even more marked, in One Piece all of the characters have some time in the spotlight, in Fiary tail they even have their own pieces of protagonism....
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,321 posts) See mini bio Level 12

1-No I didn't ignore Natsu's purpose I stated that they mentionned Igneel vanishing in episode 2 and they never mentionned it again. 
2-I was giving an example of an instance where your complain would have been legitimate .If I was to say that FT is better then DN by example because DN doesn't have fights and power-ups then you could say that DN is from a genre that isn't about fighting but about suspense.Me saying DN has a purpose and FT doesn't and then you trying to dismiss it by saying that they are different genres is pure crap ,animes wheter they are from the same genre or not generally have a purpose.It would be like saying John is a sociopath and Max is psychologycally normal and then you respond by saying "Well John is from Ireland and Max is from Japan, you can't compare them", it would again be pure crap because in both countrys have the same standards in terms of what is psychologycally normal. 

3-Gray's purpose BEFORE the serie is not his purpose now. Again that is not apurpose that is a psychological traits. Let me be clear by purpose I mean plot, I mean the ultimate goal of the protagonist. 
Exemple: Ed and Al getting their bodies back(fFMA) 
                 Defeating Millenium (HELLSING OVA) 
                 Deafeat Aizen (Bleach) 
                  Hokage (Naruto)

Post by Kuma_From_Argentina (6,641 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@mrassh0le:  Natsu is always looking clues for igneel, in  the fight with gazille he ask him, the time he met Wendy he ask her, they are also leaving a shit laod of clues so you can get interested in the dragon slayers, as their unique magic, or the time when neither Gazille or Natsu could exit the barrier for that stated only people younger than 70 (or something like that I dont remember) in Laxus arc, the anime that really lacks of a mayor objective is Bleach, Ichigo only jumps from objective to objective, Rescuing Rukia, Then Orihime, Then beating Aizen, and now he is aimless, as he was as the start of the series, and if you say that Ichigo objective is to protect his loved ones so does Erza or almost any fairy tail Memeber. 
Also the genres are to clasificate them, that's why is difficult to compare 20 th century boys, a Seinen, Thriller and mystery manga, against Kurogane no Linebarrels a shonen, Mecha, action manga, is like comparing Schindlers list with Bob square pants the movie, they are for different targets but both of them are good in what they intend, Fairy tail is a Shonen so you need to get pass the usual Shonen defects to get in the story, I love Death Note as a Mystery and supernatural manga, but I cannot compare it to for example Yuy yu Hakusho, or Shaman King, the genre clasification does matter, but you are too blind to understand it, it's like making a 7 year old boy Evangelion and afterwards ask him what he liked about the show and he will surely say the robot fights, not the incredible complex argument and character development, becouse as I said before, if you complain about every single detail you wont ever enjoy any anime. 
For example I love Berserk Anime, but is fucking full of plot holes and it's only a third or even a fourth of the manga, but even with it's defects I love Berserk, but one of my cousins entered my room when I watched the part when Gatsu decapitates a horse and his rider and got out of the room screaming ( he was 7 years old) 
Post by Superevil225 (6,742 posts) See mini bio Level 17
I have to agree. I thought Fairy Tail was a bit silly and idiotic.... in a bad way. That's just my opinion though.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,187 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@sickVisionz said:

" I think it sucks as well, although I don't share any of your opinions on why it sucks. 
 
The Good: Lucy and Happy are funny 
The Bad: Every other character, every character has some ultra-cheesy-sob-story background as a troubled child (this is getting old imo), fight animation is shoddy (at least up to episode 32) and it really is a pretty blatant copycat rip off of One Piece. "

There was no fighting in episode 32. 
Second, I still don't see your silly point about Fairy Tail copying One Piece. Both authors said they was influenced by Dragon Ball.  

@mrassh0le

said:

" Fairy Tail , the show is too comedy orientated it litterally can't be taken seriously.There is absolutely no blood nor is there anybody dying in it. And yes blood not being there is something I can ignore but there so many moments in the show that do not make sense without it. How can Erza cut poeples without them bleeding ? Also the use of fire is very to the one in Pokémon wich means someone will get brutally burned and yet recovers a second after . The other thing I dont stand is the absence of any real purpose . In FMA(B) the plot is to get Al and Ed's bodies back,in Naruto it is to get Sasuke and to become Hokage , Fairy Tail lacks that. Another thing I am not very much a fan of is the fact that they dont seem to seperate seriousness and comedy. Example: Lucy and her celestial gardiens, they all look silly except the maid and how come the cow is a male?So basically Lucy as a lesbian cow always hitting on her lol Yes animes do have a lot of comedy hell even Death NOTE had its share of comedy with Misa but it wouldn't  interferewith serious battle scenes or plots twists. "

One of things I didn't like about the anime was the blood, but the manga does have lots of it. 
Some people like comedy over action. If you don't like it then don't watch it. 
I like the story, everything feel connect. Unlike some other anime/manga titles out there 
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,321 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@Kuma_From_Argentina:
1-I never said Ichigo's purpose was to protect his friends I said his main purpose is to defeat Aizen.Wich it is most of the Bleach were about Aizen. 
2-Again  Ihave already explained that about DN and FT .  I also love how you talk about DN yet ignore the other shows being discussed. 
3-OK lets say hypothetically that this  Natsu/Igneel thing    is not just another arc while there doing they litterally wait 30 episodes ( 2 arcs) to start getting to it .
Post by Kuma_From_Argentina (6,641 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@mrassh0le:   
1- I said that Ichigo is aimless, I only added the possibility of you saying that Ichigo wanted to portect the ones he care about only as possiblity not as a fact, the target of defeating Aizen starts after the soul Society Arc, not as Naruto for example that from the starts wants to become Hokage. 
 
2- I'm only using DN and FT to comapre becouse you are saying that the genres dont matter, so that's why  I'm only using that, FMA is great, with a awesome backstory but is even if it barely qualifies as a Shonen, it's different to Fairy Tail, becouse they have different authors, the smae with Naruto, I loved classic Naruto but with the newet aprts I'm getting fed up one power-ups and power-ups, and I like Fairy tail more. 
 
3- My educated gues is  that the arc of Igneel and the others Dragons is going to be the last one of Fairy Tail, since all the dragons dissapeared at the same time, and they are building up the pressure for it, just like you knew that Haru getting the Raves and fighting the big bad would be Rave Master ending.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,187 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@mrassh0le said:

"lets say hypothetically that this  Natsu/Igneel thing is not just another arc while there doing they litterally wait 30 episodes ( 2 arcs) to start getting to it .  . "

You really don't pay attention. 
The Anime give you a lot of clues
Post by sickVisionz (4,241 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@Destinyheroknight:  
1.  I never said there was fighting in episode 32.
2.  If you don't see some pretty striking similarities between Fairy Tail and One Piece I have to wonder if you're blind, deaf or haven't seen both series.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,187 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@sickVisionz said:

" @Destinyheroknight:  1.  I never said there was fighting in episode 32.2.  If you don't see some pretty striking similarities between Fairy Tail and One Piece I have to wonder if you're blind, deaf or haven't seen both series. "

 There a lot of anime characters that look a like. Fairy Tail's author even said he was influenced by One Piece that why the art and characters look the same way. 
Can you point how there Fairy Tail character personality are the same as One Piece character?
Fairy Tail have a nice story that don't go all over places.
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