Topic started by katmic on June 8, 2013. Last post by takashichea 1 year, 9 months ago.
Post by katmic (604 posts) See mini bio Level 11

I don’t know what i just read but i am not sure if this is even fairy tail. You know, i have mentioned this before, that Hiro is really good at doing this kind of thing, creating epic set ups, really making you think that what you just witnessed is epicness in the making. Some times its just one chapter, other times he will stretch it out over several chapters, each building upon the other one; and when it finally gets to driving the nail all the way in, he cops out, or rather the tidal wave that Hiro had built and which i as a fan had been riding higher and higher suddenly falls flat, and what is left isn’t disappointment. That is what you get when you are mostly mildly interested in the developing story.
When the wave finally falls and Hiro disappoints after hyping the present plot to infinite levels, that excitement turns into seething anger. And this chapter, if this is another of Hiro’s games, i am not sure if fairy tail will recover if Hiro does what i think he is going to do. I don’t know if he even knows what he has just done. I am going to will Hiro with every cell in my brain to consider carefully what he does next after this chapter.
Last time we saw Erza, she had succumbed to the effects of her fight with Minerva, with her legs eventually giving out as she contended with one of the many dragon creatures on the loose. Barely
able to fend for herself,she had to watch helplessly as Jellal came to the rescue. Milliana had arrived at the scene in time to see the man who had killed her brother and held them all prisoner for years amicably conversing with Erza.
In this chapter we wrap this scene up. Miliiana is furious and clearly ready to unleash her vengeance against the pair, when Ultear interrupts her angry rant and makes it
clear that it was her, not Jellal, who was responsible for the misery the friends had suffered. She had manipulated jellal into building the tower and enslaving his own friends in her attempts to aid Hades and she asks that Milliana aims her hate towards her, after all she had just learnt that despite all the good she had tried to do, she was still as stained and corrupted as before.
Here, especially with the dark visage she wears, it is alluded to that she had killed Rogue. This notion is however quickly dismissed and she later on admits to her self that she had frozen. She couldn’t kill Rogue; none the less she is tormented by the fact that she had harbored the thought of killing an innocent man and admits once more that she is still a dark person.
Elsewhere, gray, juvia, Leon and Meredy are engaging the small dragon creatures in battle. Gray pauses to tell Juvia something. He dismisses its importance but none the less alludes that it must be said. juvia gets so caught up in her fantasies about what gray was about to confess to her that she doesn’t see the mini dragon fire off an attack at her.
Gray pushes her out of the way and takes the attack to the chest, which rips a hole through. He barely recovers when two or three more mini dragons join the the fight and unleash a barrage of attacks that systematically perforate gray’s body.
Gray hits the floor with a stunned ‘Eh!’ on his lips, Leon, Meredy and Juvia watching in horror…
This chapter…whoa…
I am not even sure what to say.
I was slightly disappointed by what was done with the Milliana situation. Don’t get me wrong, i thought Hiro handled it better than i thought he would. I expected Erza to make some asinine speech about love and nakama and Milliana would quickly fold. But she didn’t fall for Erza’s words, that she had forgiven Jellal and that it wasn’t his fault. It was a good idea to use Ultear to redirect her anger. She seemed more confused than anything by the end and i do not think she has forgiven anyone yet, least of all Jellal, but i suspect she will not hold it against Erza for siding with Jellal.
My disappointment comes from Kagura. I expected her to play more of a role in the argument. But she just folded and let the issue drop. Truth be told i do not even remember why she hates Jellal, but i thought she was much tougher and more vindictive than that. Hiro is missing opportunities to manifest greatness here.
With Ultear, i am ambivalent about her actions. Again it do not think that the path she took was illogical or unreasonable; after spending seven years with Jellal, and i would have been surprised if she had actually killed rogue. But i kind of hoped for more than what i saw in the chapter. But it allows for more depth in the fairy tail story, that she is still conflicted about her past and present and the difficulty that an individual is faced with in ridding themselves of past habits.
Additionally, besides my disappointment with the chapter that set up the Erza, Milliana, jellal situation, i was impressed that hiro remembered to add reason and logic to the story, that even the mighty Erza couldn’t shrug off the effects of an outrageous battle in time to fight little dragons.
But all that aside, Gray, is he really dead? I am one of those people that was advocating for more darkness in the plot, even some death to show the seriousness of the event, but even i didn’t see this coming. It stunned me. As has been the case with recent fairy tail chapters, i had no idea what to expect with this chapter because Hiro is usually all over the place. But I basically thought i was ready for anything, but this was so out of the blue and so sudden.
I am not sure how to take it. On the one hand, i can’t believe Hiro actually killed an important character off, and in such a brutal manner. As far as the story goes, fairy tail just jumped up to another level. On the other hand, as a fairy tail fan, ‘Why Gray?’ is what i can’t help but ask. In such a large cast of fairy tail characters and mages, there are so many characters Hiro could have chosen to kill off, starting from Lucy, maybe Levy, or Cana, but why Gray of all people? He was one of those consistently written characters that i just liked.
I cannot believe what happened in this chapter. The pure fairy tail fan part of me is ecstatic and shocked. The other more analytical part of me is afraid. Hiro is going to mess this up, and i am not speculating. I am sure of it. For one thing, i know that Gray isn’t dead. This is Hiro after all. Any fairy tail fan will agree with me that gray obviously used an ice clone to tank the attacks; though one has to wonder why making an ice clone would be faster than Juvia simply getting out of the way. And isn’t her body made of water? Would she have even been hurt?
I do not think Gray is dead. Hiro is clever in executing this stunt and getting our anxiety levels through the roof for a week, before finally revealing the truth. Hiro cannot kill any of his favorite fairy tail characters off, which is all of them. I am praying that he can think of a way to return Gray that isn’t debilitating to fairy tail’s reputation.
Then again, Hiro is supposed to have twitted this message after the release of this chapter :( Originally Posted by Hiro Mashima -Please wait until next week. You will be surprised.) I do not know how to take that. Maybe he is speaking to those that do not want gray dead.
Oh and there was an awesome rogue and sting moment that made me dislike them less. next few chapters it looks like they will be teaming up to take down both of their dragons.
RATING: 5/5 – WOW, that is all i can say, wow… i am reading this chapter again just to be sure i wasn’t imagining things.
Here is what i know about gildartz from watching fairy tail and reading the manga. His full name is Gildartz Clive and he is also the oldest member of fairy tail besides Makarov. We know little to nothing about Gidartz’s past but then again it probably doesn’t matter. We know that some time during his life, he met and seduced one Cornelia, eventually, and unbeknownst to him, giving birth to Cana, another member of fairy tail. Cana would spend a large portion of her life trying to figure out how to tell Gildartz the truth, that he was her father; but she could never get the courage, mostly because whenever she would see him, as a child of 5 or 6, she could feel the air or importance around him, the power he radiated and the respect he received from everyone and she would shrink into none existence, defeated by her own self esteem and lacking; basically the way she saw it was that how could the daughter of the great and mighty Gildartz be so weak.
And as the years came and went, each passing with Gildartz returning to the guild once every year, receiving the praise of a champion, Cana would watch him come through the doors, intent on finally revealing the truth to him, only for her words to fail her as he would wave his hand through her head, maybe give her a hug, and move on, leaving her defeated. From then on she decided that one day she would reveal the truth to him, but only after finally passing the test and becoming an S class mage like him. But of course she failed terribly, taking and failing the S-class test 6 or 7 times where the likes of Erza and Mirajane, younger, passed immediately. Eventually she fell into drunkenness and seized to matter.
Cana aside, we learn over time just who Gildartz is. He might be the second most powerful person in the guild, but you wouldn’t know it as he is so laid back and unmotivated, willing to spend most of his time boozing and seducing the ladies rather than getting any work done. As a mage of fairy tail, Gildartz uses crash magic; a form of magic that basically decimates everything that he comes into contact with, hence the term crush.
Gildartz’s magic is so powerful that every time he comes back to Magnolia, the entire town has to be rearranged to create a single straight path from the border to the guild and that is because over the years his return has resulted in a serious amount of damage. This isn’t merely because Gildartz isn’t fully in control of his power but because of the way he uses it. Most times, when he is done with anything, rather than using the door, he will walk into the nearest wall and through it, a habit that he does unconsciously and which the town is willing to accommodate because of the love and respect they have for him.
With crash magic, Gildartz not only crushes anything he touches but he can also choose to simply break it down into smaller versions of the original, such as when he fought natsu and broke him into
a few thousand mini natsus. While Gildartz rarely fights in the presence of the other guild members, whom he lets eliminate the enemy, when he does fight, he will have everything and everyone clear the area; because, according to happy, natsu’s cat, Gildartz always fights at full power, or close to it and he simply doesn’t know how to hold back. Which is why Gildartz’s fighting style is mostly martial arts based. He will use hand to hand combat skills to beat an opponent and only use crush magic when he physically touches the opponent, focusing the power through his touch and that way, the effects of crush magic are minimal. Even then though, his touch is designed to absolutely destroy everything it touches, hence not even in sparring where Gildartz is forced to keep the level of battle at a low intensity is his opponent, enemy or friend safe. However once he has to fight an opponent he must defeat, and determines that his crush magic must be unleashed fully, the destruction is wide spread as he doesn’t limit it to his fists, necessitating all other by standers to clear the area before he can fight.
Gildartz’s crush magic has, as of the last time he fought, proved that it isn’t limited to physical objects and that he can crush and decimate magic as well.
The type and destructive nature of his crash magic explains the reason why Gildartz will rarely engage in battle if he can help it. AS a fairy tail guild member, Gildartz will fight to protect his guild members against any and all foes, and in most cases choosing to use lethal means where others might incapacitate. Not long ago, Gildartz met and fought the mighty black dragon Achnologia. This would be the first and only opponent to defeat him; and his first defeat would be his worst. Gildartz lost his left leg, left arm and an organ to Achnologia and even then he barely escaped. On his initial appearance, he was making use of a wooden replacement. Recently he acquired metallic prosthetics.
Gildartz, as the strongest mage, was recently offered the job of master of fairy tail by a retired Makarov. After being shown the great secret, Lumen Histoire, the so called darkness (or light, depending on who you ask) of fairy tail, he declined the job, instead nominated Makarov to return to his position as he went on another great quest.
Gildartz is mentioned several times along with Laxus and mystogun as the strongest mage in fairy tail, most notably during mystogun and laxus’ first fight. He finally appears during the Edolas arc, but after being sucked away to the parallel dimension like everyone else, only plays a part in the story during the S-class arc, when he is assigned the position of one of the obstacles and judges for the test. It is during his fight with Natsu that he unleashes power and for the first time teaches the young mage the true meaning of fear. He later arrives on the scene when Grimoire heart’s strongest mage, Blue note stinger, arrives and decimates the entire fairy tail team. Gildartz must then match his crush magic against the man’s debilitating gravity powers.
I love this character. Sure he isn’t the most complicated character, but he is…i don’t know the word to use…fun. Not in that typical fairy tail ‘always laughing and smiling’ way; i like the laid back way he is presented and i do not think we really need to know that much about his character to make him any more interesting to watch. For one thing, as the most powerful character on screen, you can expect some fireworks whenever he is on the filed.
It is a shame that Hiro limits his time in battle. I wish we would see more of him and his crush magic, because the little we have seen has been epic, especially his first appearance and his revelation
about the black dragon Achnologia. His fight with blue note stinger ranks high up there are one of my all time favorite fairy tail battles. It was a chance to see him let loose, and the event was only accentuated by the fact that blue note was so overwhelmingly powerful that with his abilities he was rocking the entire island. The effect of Gildartz’s power is usually such that you not as much interested in how he will defeat his opponent as much as how his opponent will survive Gildartz and with blue note it was fun to watch them shattering everything around them and lifting and juggling entire land masses in an attempt to one up each other.
Now that i think about it, Hiro has never provided a reasonable explanation for his absence, especially in the time of danger. He is always suspiciously absent and i hate that. We have seen copious amounts of Erza and laxus fights, characters we once looked upon as mysterious and unknown and Hiro has given us ample time to fully explore there abilities. With Gildartz, we are still in the dark about just how well he fights.
I still think that Hiro has handled his character well, especially with the Cana arc, not only exploring her character’s dark past but using it to reveal more of who Gildartz is on a mental and emotional level. This was one of those moments i was surprised at how dark the normally light and fluffy fairy tail got; i never really thought about Cana before; she was always irrelevant and her drinking habit seemed more of a comedic tool than anything; i was surprised that hiro would allow the issue to take a dark turn. This includes Gildartz own physical disabilities. Fairy tail isn’t the kind of show you would expect to have limb dismemberment, especially when even the most brutally attacked characters just seem to die away from a bruise or two.
Gildartz is just…interesting to watch. He adds a sense of excitement to every scene and i will admit to hating hearing him compare himself to Natsu, the way laxus did as well in the tournament. What is up with all these strong characters and looking up to weak Natsu.
I just remembered that at the time he met Achnologia, Gildartz was off undertaking a one hundred year quest, the same quest he undertakes once more when he rejects mastership of the guild. Hiro has yet to tell us what a one hundred year quest is. Clearly it can’t take one hundred years; Gildartz returned in a mere three years.
Anyway, if i was to rate Gildartz as a character on grounds of how interesting he is, i would rate him with an A out of an A-E rating.
Now i have to admit it, i have never understood or shared the notion that Gildartz was copied off of shanks from one piece. Sure they have similar red hair and their faces sort of look alike but here is the thing; this is manga. Besides one or two shows based off of a manhwa, most of these characters are are drawn using simple straight or curving lines; if you took away special markers, maybe the giant weapons they carry, eccentric clothing and what not, many anime characters would look the same.
I reject the idea that Hiro was inspired by Shanks in drawing Gildartz. I feel the need to say that because i have come across a number of comments with regards to how similar fairy tail is to one piece. I would not mind those comments if they actually elaborated on exactly how fairy tail is similar to one piece. All they do is mention how similar Gildartz is to shanks. Basically because of that one reason, fairy tail is a cheap copy of one piece.
That is not a good enough reason to compare one manga to another. I have looked and maybe i am biased; i admit that in some shots of Natsu smiling, he has reminded me of luffy (though only because of how many time i hear it) but one element of an manga doesn’t make it a copy of another. Gildartz and Shanks’ similarity is a coincidence, and unless someone else can point out any other similarity, i am inclined to conclude that many of these people either simply hate fairy tail and are intent on putting it down or they simply haven’t read it and have chosen to jump on board of the opinions of others.
Post by akronawol17 (3,879 posts) See mini bio Level 12

my theory about grey's "death" is that its leon disguised as grey... i know its stupid, but think about it. i didnt see leon doing anything to help, so what if he just used a spell to look like grey and save juvia.

Post by takashichea (16,605 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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Gildartz's absence is from his character being too strong. With a manga has an absurdly strong character, it upsets the flow of the story and how the main characters get stronger. Hiro Mashima cannot use Gildartz too much because he wants Natsu and the others, the next generation, to face their problems. The whole Gildartz's wandering around is to make up the excuse for his absence. If you are familiar with Rurouni Kenshin's Hiko Seijuro, the editor told the mangaka not to use Hiko so much because he is too strong. Both of the situations are pretty similar.

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