EUREKA SEVEN #2 -- Watch & Learn

Topic started by No_name_here on Nov. 17, 2011. Last post by zaldar 2 years, 10 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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Poll the crowd -- does this kid make that fanny pack "work?"
Poll the crowd -- does this kid make that fanny pack "work?"

Straight up, I don’t know if I’m going to watch this entire series. It’s a loooooong one. While I did enjoy covering every one of FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST BROTHERHOOD’s 64 episodes, I don’t know if this show has the same kind of following to get enough of you lunatics to stay with me for its entirety. Still, this is the show you picked in the polls, so we'll see just how long we can go on with this.

We’re back to the show that’s like MACROSS meeting POINT BREAK and the daddy issues are in full swell. We’ve also got an explanation for the title with that super-mysterious fuel canister, so the show’s certainly establishing matters at a proper clip. Once again, I can’t help thinking about how the guys behind this show have seriously been studying their Joseph Campbell. Not only do we have these ever-present and as-of-yet-unresolved issues with an absent father and a disapproving father figure, we’ve also got this blue-haired girl doing her damnedest to call our hero to adventure despite his oh-so-stubborn reluctance. I suppose the “brother battle” is next? Or is it the searching for the elixir? Have we already found it with that Eureka thing? I should go back and review the monomyth. It’ll let me know exactly what’s coming over these next few episodes.

Actually, while we’re speaking of those next few episodes, I hope they don’t run with this discussion of hope, self-belief and whatnot for too long. GURREN LAGANN was able to pull it off pretty well by keeping the argument simple and focused on specific physical concerns. However, when a show starts dealing in intangibles like this which are a so vague and so tough to handle through the… idiom of mecha battles, it starts feeling like you’re at a self-help seminar with a poorly-designed Power Point slide show.

Watch this episode, "Blue Sky Fish” here and decide for yourself, then read my comments on the previous episode here.

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of HYBRID BASTARDS! & UNIMAGINABLE. Order them on Amazon here & here. Follow him on Twitter: @tompinchuk

Post by endaround (19 posts) See mini bio Level 7

There is a lot of Point Break type philosophy in this show, be prepared.

Post by SpikeSpiegel88 (29 posts) See mini bio Level 11

To repeat my blog:

I tried watching Eureka Seven, seeing as I hadn't watched a mecha in a while. It was .... allright, had it's moments, but protagonist annoyed me, and the people I first found interesting I sorta.. didn't care about anymore.

Eureka was not as good as I had hoped. I liked the world, and at first some of the characters, but everyone was hyper emotional, the relationship between Eureka and Renton got very annoying rather then sweet, and It felt very much done before. They kept it casual, to then slap some out-of-the-blue serious as shit moments in our face, to then have an episode about them playing football (just an example). The pace was off and I felt too much time was spent with renton and eurekas looped dialogues (repetative). They had some interesting character on the plane that would have been great to get fleshed out some more.(some did later on) Then there were all the things like "Seven swells" "day of love" or whatever it was called and all these things that in a very FFXIII way was just thrown around and then not allways explained, and if, not untill the later part of the show. I understand these plot teqniques very well, I have seen plenty of anime to know they can work.. but here it felt more to me like they could have either tones them down or had a bigger pay-off.. Most of the explanations had more of a "oh..ok" rather then a "aaaahh now I get it" effect on me.. I still watched the show and currently only have 9 episodes left, so it was still entertaining enough to watch trough, but it was far from great and I had my hopes too high for it from fans recomendation.

I was very much nitpicking with these comments, but Like I said in my blog, my taste for new stuff is kinda jaded having watched to many really GREAT shows.

Post by Lurkero (410 posts) See mini bio Level 7

I'm not gonna lie, the main protagonist for this show is annoying. Almost on Shinji (Evangelion) levels of get over yourself annoyance at some times.

If you don't want to stick with the show then you should stop. I would not begrudge you that as I myself skipped through some of the episodes in the beginning just to see if the show would get better.

Post by yllekkram (33 posts) See mini bio Level 10

The series isn't quite as long as it looks, at first glance, on Crunchyroll; it's a 50-episode series, but they have all the sub episodes and then all the dub episodes in a single 10-episode playlist (e.g. the 51st episode in the playlist is the dub version of episode 1). Personally, I like the dub, but that might be because I first watched Eureka Seven before I knew about subs.

One of the things I really liked about this series feels like it is live-action. One of the contributing factors is that the animation rarely deforms. The other big factor is that the music evokes feelings in me; that could be because I associated feelings with the music the first time I watched the series, so I have expectations in subsequent viewings. Does anyone watching the series for the first time have an opinion of the music?

Post by Rxanadu (83 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@SpikeSpiegel88 said:

To repeat my blog:

I tried watching Eureka Seven, seeing as I hadn't watched a mecha in a while. It was .... allright, had it's moments, but protagonist annoyed me, and the people I first found interesting I sorta.. didn't care about anymore.

Eureka was not as good as I had hoped. I liked the world, and at first some of the characters, but everyone was hyper emotional, the relationship between Eureka and Renton got very annoying rather then sweet, and It felt very much done before. They kept it casual, to then slap some out-of-the-blue serious as shit moments in our face, to then have an episode about them playing football (just an example). The pace was off and I felt too much time was spent with renton and eurekas looped dialogues (repetative). They had some interesting character on the plane that would have been great to get fleshed out some more.(some did later on) Then there were all the things like "Seven swells" "day of love" or whatever it was called and all these things that in a very FFXIII way was just thrown around and then not allways explained, and if, not untill the later part of the show. I understand these plot teqniques very well, I have seen plenty of anime to know they can work.. but here it felt more to me like they could have either tones them down or had a bigger pay-off.. Most of the explanations had more of a "oh..ok" rather then a "aaaahh now I get it" effect on me.. I still watched the show and currently only have 9 episodes left, so it was still entertaining enough to watch trough, but it was far from great and I had my hopes too high for it from fans recomendation.

I was very much nitpicking with these comments, but Like I said in my blog, my taste for new stuff is kinda jaded having watched to many really GREAT shows.

Pretty much that.

Also, I still think you should have watched BECK in the running. Who knows: maybe you could have had a running theme with rock and roll alongside Vinny and Rocksmifth on Giant Bomb. I think the only things I have bad to say about that show are that the art is a bit rough in general and the F-bomb dropping in the show can get ridiculous (not Mad Bull 34 bad, though). I may follow these posts for a while, but since I've already watched the show (marathoned it like I always do), I'll be reading these to refresh my memory.

Truthfully, I'd be amazed if you got past the first 15 episodes without wanting to pummel at least 3 of the members of the cast to a bloody pulp.

Post by Om1kron (143 posts) See mini bio Level 7

The show is only 23 episodes or something, it's not that long. I prefer short series with a resolution rather than a long drawn out series full of bullshit filler aka NARUTO which I've given up watching. One Piece on the other hand, you gotta get on it Tom, I'm telling you man! haha best decision I've ever made.

Eureka 7 was one of my favorite anime's I dug the story, the world, and while not every plot hole is filled completely I can accept the fluff that was added in this show. I dug the music, pretty much anything from this animation studio I will watch (BONES) so I'm a tad biased. I love their worlds, art direction, color, and music. Plus one episode has fist pumping in it and made me LULZ!

The real meat and potatoes comes around the end of the series, and it also reminded me a lot of Firefly the way the captain of the ship was. Of course I don't remember anyone's names besides Eureka but I do get that Evangellion vibe from the two main protagonists.

Post by EganTheVile1 (1,511 posts) See mini bio Level 20

This is a fun series, the eventual payoff is that

Renton and Eureka do become a couple

Post by SpikeSpiegel88 (29 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@Om1kron: Nahh mate, its 52 episodes.

Also, how dare you compare it to firefly XD Nathan Fillion is a legend.

Post by kemuri07 (3 posts) See mini bio Level 5

Tried watching it during its original run on Adult Swim. Got through about 10 episodes before stopping--it was too slow, even for a typical anime show, and it didn't feel like it was going anywhere.

But it was a farily good-looking show.

Post by zaldar (1,272 posts) See mini bio Level 15

it starts feeling like you’re at a self-help seminar with a poorly-designed Power Point slide show.

Unfortunately this is what it became for me. The last episode you could pretty much put on the Beatles "all you need is love" and get the theme (one I find depressingly naive) of the whole show in 3 minutes in a much more enjoyable way.

This disappointed me greatly as the build up I enjoyed very much.

I do love how you basically come right out and say you decide these based on how many people will read them, talk about them, and thus lead to page clicks ;). Way to show the man behind the curtain.

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