EUREKA SEVEN AO #7 -- Watch & Learn

Topic started by No_name_here on June 10, 2012. Last post by FoxxFireArt 1 year, 10 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (852 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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Once again, I can’t help but think about how this episode’s going to be viewed by fans once the series runs its course. I’m not going to make any knee jerk judgments, but I’ll still say that it’s very easy to picture this as the “jump the shark” moment for the moment. It won’t necessarily be, mind you, but the concept of a nigh-invincible shape-shifter going on some sort of five-in-one rampage feels so far markedly removed from what the sort of sci-fantasy we’ve seen for so many hours so far that this is definitely some sort of breaking point.

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Look, I love curveballs. I can appreciate how this show’s gone on a switchback turn taking it far away from the story beats I was expecting after these six episodes of set-up. There may have been some confusing leaps in plotting - - I’m not entirely sure how we went from “Truth” having his/her dialogue with Ao on Nirvash’s hood to playing mind games with Ao’s girl back in Okinawa. However, in terms of taking daring steps, this episode dared big. This incomprehensible threat coming back to Ao’s home turf, and then seducing his girl, packs far heavier emotional punch than anything we’ve seen before.

However… this villain really doesn’t feel like he/she belongs in this show. Ostensibly, all villains are supposed to have that sort of “outside threat” quality, but this one really feels like he/she’s hopped over from another show with a completely different concept and tone.

Suppose we better stay tuned to see if he’ll eventually fit into this?

Watch this episode, "Bye Bye Angel” here and decide for yourself, then read my comments on the previous episode here.

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Post by LordTerminal (65 posts) See mini bio Level 6

I'm still sticking w/ my theory that Truth is a G-Monster possessed Renton until further notice. But yeah this guy is a big tonal shift compared to the previous series.

Post by yllekkram (33 posts) See mini bio Level 10

The main things that keep me watching the show are the dangling carrots that are Eureka's disappearance and Renton's total absence. Seriously, the focus of the first series was the relationship between Eureka and Renton, and I would have assumed that this series would show the details of their life together. If the creators had left the state of Eureka's and Renton's relationship in the state that it was in at the end of first series, and moved further into the future (or wherever in the timeline), I probably wouldn't mind. (Has Renton even been alluded to in AO yet?)

Instead, it seems likely that something tragic separated them prematurely, but it doesn't seem like we'll get an explanation any time soon. It feels a lot like the start of Season 2 of Darker than Black. The main characters from the original series are put in important roles, but they are changed significantly, and there is little explanation. In the case of Darker than Black, you had to see the interquel OVA to have any context for the character changes.

On a less critical note, it seems like the plot of this series is: Renton and Eureka overused the power of love at teh end of the first series, so now the Anti-Spiral has sent Angels to cause destruction.

@LordTerminal: My crazy theory is that Truth is Ao's unloved older brother who got the wrong half of the Coralian gentics.

Post by zaldar (1,154 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@yllekkram: You know it would all most be hilariously cool if they tried to work in other mythologies like that... all most..

Post by LordTerminal (65 posts) See mini bio Level 6

@yllekkram said:

The main things that keep me watching the show are the dangling carrots that are Eureka's disappearance and Renton's total absence. Seriously, the focus of the first series was the relationship between Eureka and Renton, and I would have assumed that this series would show the details of their life together. If the creators had left the state of Eureka's and Renton's relationship in the state that it was in at the end of first series, and moved further into the future (or wherever in the timeline), I probably wouldn't mind. (Has Renton even been alluded to in AO yet?)

Instead, it seems likely that something tragic separated them prematurely, but it doesn't seem like we'll get an explanation any time soon. It feels a lot like the start of Season 2 of Darker than Black. The main characters from the original series are put in important roles, but they are changed significantly, and there is little explanation. In the case of Darker than Black, you had to see the interquel OVA to have any context for the character changes.

On a less critical note, it seems like the plot of this series is: Renton and Eureka overused the power of love at teh end of the first series, so now the Anti-Spiral has sent Angels to cause destruction.

@LordTerminal: My crazy theory is that Truth is Ao's unloved older brother who got the wrong half of the Coralian gentics.

The closest Renton has been alluded to so far is Ao mentioning how he hates his father and wants to punch him in the face in the next episode. And even then its not like they mention Renton directly by name.

And I haven't seen Darker than Black but I get what you're saying w/ your analogy. I'm still going to stick to this series until the end because I still want to see where they go w/ this but I am getting quite annoyed by how little they dance around the previous show's mythos and answers to the various questions and such. Makes me worried how this series will end. So far though, I've seen worse.

Post by yllekkram (33 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@LordTerminal: I have seen the next episode, and my assumption is that Ao hates his father due to his total absence. Also, the blurry image of the white Nirvash is yet another carrot for existing fans.

Another more optimistic speculation is that Eureka told Ao that Renton would be coming to join/save/retrieve/<whatever> them, but he hasn't shown up, yet. That would open the door for Renton to make a badass entrance later on in the series.

Either way, it will be interesting to see what Eureka told Ao about herself and Renton.

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,637 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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That really weird leap of Truth fighting Ao then suddenly in Okinawa was kind of jarring. You can make a lot of story conceits as to how that happened, but how do you then explain Ao knowing to go to Okinawa to see Naru. I wonder then if Ao only saw some weird fantasy that Truth made him see. That Ao was never actually in Okinawa and crashed soon after his clash with Truth, the way Fleur described it. He only saw what Truth wanted him to.

I don't remember seeing anyone talking or interacting with Ao other than Truth and Naru.

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