DUSK MAIDEN OF AMNESIA #1 - - Special Review

Topic started by No_name_here on Aug. 24, 2012. Last post by metalsnakezero 2 years, 3 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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Huh. I should’ve watched this on a double-feature with KOKORO CONNECT. There really is anime of every color, texture and stripe… and those stripes can get specific enough to evoke the experience of watching a high school play. I swear, I mean that in the best way possible.

Both titles have the feel of a bunch of talented kids putting on a show with very light supernatural elements and making the most of the sparse visual aids that the school’s humble black box theater affords them. While I might initially question why an animated series would impose such limitations on its own scope, the talking heads were at least something entertaining and funny (as opposed to, say, STEINS: GATE, where they just kept blathering on).

I was pleasantly surprised to find that - - despite my grave concerns from the title - - the titular “Dusk Maiden of Amnesia” wasn’t actually part of the dreaded Amnesiac Child Assassin trope. Actually, that Dusk Maiden of Amnesia isn’t anywhere in sight, yet (unless the title’s supposed to be some veiled reference to the horny poltergeist who’s desperately looking for somebody to cop a feel on her?) Evidently, it’s not memories that are missing here; it’s a cast member.

You know, I don’t know if I’ll ever have the time to do so, but I would really like to re-watch this first episode. For once, I feel like that’d actually be a rewarding experience, since the shows plays a very fun (and theatrical) gimmick here by playing the same scenes twice over with the absence or addition of our ghostly cast member. Even while I clued in on the gag a little early, it’s still a bit more... immediately gratifying than that question of whether the body swap in KOKORO CONNECT was a put-on or not.

And I do think it’d be even more… gratifying if I knew exactly what they were going for.

Watch this episode, "Ghost Maiden” below and decide for yourself.

Tom Pinchuk’s a writer and personality with a large number of comics, videos and features like this to his credit. Visit his website - - tompinchuk.com - - and follow his Twitter: @tompinchuk

Post by rubberluffy (596 posts) See mini bio Level 16

I've read a bit of the manga and I kinda remember it having an interesting setup but I never really stuck with it. It is always interesting to see someone who primarily did porn manga make it big enough with a normal manga to get animated like this.

Post by sickVisionz (4,310 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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I read an anime preview that described this as its season's Another. That greatly colored my views and I dropped it after it became clear that the previewer seemed to think that Another was a fanservice ghost comedy. On a side note, I will forever be flabbergasted at the anime you say is better than Steins; Gate.
Post by DocHaus (936 posts) See mini bio Level 18

The comedy part was enough to keep me watching the first few episodes, as you think the "school mysteries" are mostly things that ghost-president did because she was bored. Then the drama part hits when they start to uncover her shadow and it doesn't stop until the ending.

Post by Daroki (86 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@sickVisionz said:

On a side note, I will forever be flabbergasted at the anime you say is better than Steins; Gate.

Cant agree more with this sentiment. I know Tom's argument of "Why can't it be good from the start" and Steins;Gate does have a LOT of setup, but it pays off in the end. I nearly didn't stick with Steins;Gate because it looked as disjointed as Chaos;HEad at first, but it actually took all of those things that were disjointed, and just moved the camera to where they all fit into place by the end. It's a brilliant show.

Dusk Maiden of Amnesia wasn't bad either, but it's not on THAT level. Kokoro Connect on the other hand just might be.

Post by sickVisionz (4,310 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@Daroki said:

@sickVisionz said:

On a side note, I will forever be flabbergasted at the anime you say is better than Steins; Gate.

Cant agree more with this sentiment. I know Tom's argument of "Why can't it be good from the start" and Steins;Gate does have a LOT of setup, but it pays off in the end.

The start isn't even that rough to me. This first episode is murder, mystery, resurrection, time paradoxes, and some comedy. All that's in Dusk is some kinda sorta meh humor and fanservice.

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,649 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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This series has quite a bit of fan service, but I was really interested in the mystery behind the death of Yuko. There seems to be a lot more behind her death than originally seems.

I thought the first episode was a lot fun to see part of the story at a time.

Post by metalsnakezero (680 posts) See mini bio Level 16

Don't watch this Tom. Dusk, while visually interesting, does have a lot of focus with it setting, premise, and characters and just uses poor jokes and cheap fan-service to amuse the audience.

Also you need to get over your hate on Steins;Gate as most of the high tier shows are very dialog heavy and are pack with info. It true that actions speak loader than words but you need to think about why those shows do it in the first half of the series.

Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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@sickVisionz said:

@Daroki said:

@sickVisionz said:

On a side note, I will forever be flabbergasted at the anime you say is better than Steins; Gate.

Cant agree more with this sentiment. I know Tom's argument of "Why can't it be good from the start" and Steins;Gate does have a LOT of setup, but it pays off in the end.

The start isn't even that rough to me. This first episode is murder, mystery, resurrection, time paradoxes, and some comedy. All that's in Dusk is some kinda sorta meh humor and fanservice.

STEINS GATE was a show that treated "Text messages from the future!" like a serious premise for a thriller. I gave that show six episodes to hook me, and I struggled to stay awake most of the time. That's two hours. Longer than the length of some movies.... and it was still saving the "good stuff" for later. It's like if you didn't like, say, EVA 1:0 and were chided about not wanting to see EVA 2:0 - - the logic doesn't hold. Are you being too hasty for dropping this show because you haven't liked it it so far?

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@metalsnakezero said:

Don't watch this Tom. Dusk, while visually interesting, does have a lot of focus with it setting, premise, and characters and just uses poor jokes and cheap fan-service to amuse the audience.

Also you need to get over your hate on Steins;Gate as most of the high tier shows are very dialog heavy and are pack with info. It true that actions speak loader than words but you need to think about why those shows do it in the first half of the series.

You're acting like a lot of dialog, in of itself, is a sign of a good show. STEINS GATE just had uninteresting dialog, which is just as bad as boring action.

Post by Daroki (86 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@No_name_here said:

@sickVisionz said:

@Daroki said:

@sickVisionz said:

On a side note, I will forever be flabbergasted at the anime you say is better than Steins; Gate.

Cant agree more with this sentiment. I know Tom's argument of "Why can't it be good from the start" and Steins;Gate does have a LOT of setup, but it pays off in the end.

The start isn't even that rough to me. This first episode is murder, mystery, resurrection, time paradoxes, and some comedy. All that's in Dusk is some kinda sorta meh humor and fanservice.

STEINS GATE was a show that treated "Text messages from the future!" like a serious premise for a thriller. I gave that show six episodes to hook me, and I struggled to stay awake most of the time. That's two hours. Longer than the length of some movies.... and it was still saving the "good stuff" for later. It's like if you didn't like, say, EVA 1:0 and were chided about not wanting to see EVA 2:0 - - the logic doesn't hold. Are you being too hasty for dropping this show because you haven't liked it it so far?

If Steins;Gate didn't pay off as well as it did, I'd be right there with you Tom. I think the fact that I put it on hold around the time you stopped watching is what makes me stand on this so strongly. I nearly dropped it around episode 5-6, marathoned it to 8, then marathoned it past the "apex" and was hooked watching it every week as soon as it came out. I don't think this is something that's best watched in episodes until you're forced into it, and it DOES force you into it eventually. The voice acting performance was the thing that carried it. Okabe is one of the best pieces of voice work I've ever heard, anime, animation, video games, or otherwise. (I don't envy J Michael Tatum trying to do that for the English dub and hearing him talk about the character on an ANNCast, he KNOWS it's an challenge and he's up for doing whatever he can with it.) It's dense, chewy, and obtuse and works hard at not giving you a comfortable place to grab on to. Once it lets you grab on though, it's amazing, and I could have easily seen myself walking away from it and not going back which I would have regretted.

The build up has to be worth the payoff, and Steins;Gate somehow paid off it's ridiculous amount of build. I never would have expected that to be the case but it manages it somehow.

Post by Marshal Victory (2,637 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Hmm i dropped STEINS GATE after the 1st change in future bit. Watched the whole series of this.Don't regret it.Also this is important question at hand ... will http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beano_(dietary_supplement) help stop "flabbergasted"???

This show tho the structure will bother some (cough writers cough). its dark then light.Comedy then drama but never a drama-edy!Art wise its done very very well.An no not for the fan service.Colors an lack their of set mood an tone much better than most of what comes out of hollyweird.

Its change of pace is what i was amused with.Its a good story over all with great artistic style. An its best part it does not set up a second season.It is a self contained story.Last bit tho well the 1st episode is the weakest of the series!

Post by sickVisionz (4,310 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@No_name_here said:

Are you being too hasty for dropping this show because you haven't liked it it so far?

Touche.

Post by metalsnakezero (680 posts) See mini bio Level 16

@No_name_here: I guess it depends on if the person who is watching is in to the dialog. Stain;Gate is indeed influence of message board talk so I guess it would work out with people who aren't in to internet science talk.

Also you really are too touchy on the oddities of anime premise when comic books are guilty of that.

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