What we know about goku

Topic started by shonen on June 18, 2012. Last post by DBZ_universe 1 year, 3 months ago.
Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Goku

Strength: Class 100+

Striking strength: Multi-planet level+

Durability : Planet level+

Destructive capacity: Multi Solar System

Speed: Between Mach 1000+ - MFTL

Post by Sonata (35,342 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@shonen: You are way off when comes to striking strength, he hasn't shown anything close to that.
Post by valfranx (194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@valfranx said:

It depends. From what we're talking about goku? Goku Anime / Manga? or goku movie / gt? Or General?

goku general has made ​​a feat buuhan like, how to destroy or affect all dimensions is a dimension / spiritual universe the size of our universe. then we can say that goku is also dimension buster.

just turning into SSJ3, made ​​a similar feat to that of Buuhan:

http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/4100/fanoyofullfrm2fb17ebyq4.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/janembauniversefvdug.gif

http://www.abload.de/img/universe3t3d55.gif

Both goku as several characters confirmed that baby Janemba was affecting all dimension / spiritual universe.

Another thing, understand that the fight Janemba vs Goku was happening in a universe, but different from the universe mortal , Goku does not have to worry about restricting his power and can use its full power smoothly, unlike a fight on a planet, where you have to control their power for not destroy the earth by accident, for those who wanted to get an idea of how Goku would be a struggle being waged in space, there’s a fight that you always wanted to see, so we have an idea of how Goku and z fighters can be very powerful locking a fight in space.

It is after seeing Goku SSJ3 doing something similar with the of buuhan done in the anime:

Do not know why doubt that SSJ3 Goku was actually much more powerful in this movie than in the anime / manga. Think of the destruction that SSJ3 Goku and Janemba was causing in an area as large as the universe, must have been a feat that exceeded feat of kidbuu destroy a galaxy in the anime, somewhere around multigalaxy buster and on maximum dimensional universal, capable of destroying the fabric of the universe, to make it collapse.

in GT goku is base can be compared with Vegito/gogeta:,

Here goku says rildo and stronger than majin buu, did not specify, just said that rildo was stronger than all versions of Buu.

Buu starts to collapse the universe

Punch through it vegeto!!!

Vegito punches through the space time warping.

And whats the result of vegito's actions, o kaioshin sama?

On universe of games broly is the non-fused character more powerful, more powerful than SSJ3 Goku, SSJ3 gotenhks, Janemba and buuhan together. So in dragon ball raging blast broly SSJ3, should be much more powerful, since SSJ3 multiplies the power of 400x. 400 x 1,400,000,000=560 000 000 000

Conclusion, power scaling of games and movies are different from the anime / manga / dbo.

So much so that the fourth movie 4, Goku and Krillin that were able to destroy a dwarf star the size of the moon that was heading toward the earth, said they would not destroy, because the explosion would destroy the earth, but said that could change the orbit of the star, and made on movie, in the same film as goku could turn into pre-ssj.

in Movie 5, goku ssj also showed the ability to destroy a star, not destroyed by the same motive in the fourth movie.

movie 6, Goku and Metal Cooler, fighting course in IT, while in the anime / manga, goku need to put your fingers on the forehead is for use IT.

Is broly ssj without becoming, was capable of destroying a galaxy at the center, where the center of the galaxy has the largest concentration of stars in a galaxy, start destroying the star on center, who will start a chain reaction that will destroy a good part of the galaxy, and how to destroy the core of a planet, destroy it and you will destroy the entire planet.

And as the games are also a parallel universe to the movies, this universe is broly more powerful than the broly movies, because neither the broly movies was able to match with goku SSJ3.

More on games broly fight of equal terms with gogeta for some time.

in DBZ: Budokai 3 Broly destroyed the universe in a ending alternative:

.Feats of broly on games are much more impressive than those of the films.

and seeing how he is stronger than gogeta shaped base and perhaps equal to gogeta ssj1, which is enough to beat guys at universal level as buuhan and Janemba easily.

then we come to the conclusion that games broly is stronger than their versions of the films.

picking up the scaling power of games and confronting with anime / movie will arrive at this result.

gogeta ssj2>>>>>>>>broly>>>>>>>Goku ssj3>>>>Hirudegarn>>>>>janemba>>>>>>ssj3 goku>>>buuhan>>>Buugotenks>>>>kidbuu=ssj3 goku=gohan mystic=ssj3 gotenks>>>>>SuperBuu>>>Fatbuu>>>goku ssj2 FP(Fullpower)=vegeta ssj2 fp>>>>>Broly M10>>>Gohan ssj2=Dabura=SPC>>>>Hatchiyack>>>Broly>>>PC=goku ssj1

From these data and using as a reference broly we can say that goku in gt is a casual universe buster tranquilly.

And we can talk about how plv. 130 (which is 3 digits) can destroy the moon, 10.000 or 18,000 can destroy a planet.

Goku says screw it, realizes he can now use ki, and proceeds to blow up the dimension.

He fires a beam

and the dimension cracks, then explodes.

After the dimension is destroyed goku go's in some weird nexus of realities place and kaioshin takes him back to his realm, and they start focusing on bebi and stuff.

Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Sonata said:

@shonen: You are way off when comes to striking strength, he hasn't shown anything close to that.

So Friezza survives planet exploding with no damage while near death and out of energy, but yet goku strength is below planet level wtf ? if this was the case he wouldn't hurt freiza at all.

Post by Sonata (35,342 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@shonen said:

@Sonata said:

@shonen: You are way off when comes to striking strength, he hasn't shown anything close to that.

So Friezza survives planet exploding with no damage while near death and out of energy, but yet goku strength is below planet level wtf ? if this was the case he wouldn't hurt freiza at all.

What do you mean no damage half his face was gone and he had some energy left Goku did manage to give him some of his. If they can strike down a planet then how come Vegeta and the others could not knock down the Door to Dr. Gero's lair .They once again had to resort to energy waves. 
Post by GrayWolf2 (318 posts) See mini bio Level 7
Class 100+..why not. Not that this stat means anything to any dragonballer but okay. Speed: I have no idea. I still have problems figuring out how the hell he broke out of that paralyzing light/nuclear bomb Freeza trapped him without a scratch after it detonated. Striking power....this is tough. He is clearly capable of felling characters who can tank planetary explosions at point blank but saying he can bust a planet with a punch seems too much. The destructive force of his punch is nowhere close to that but the concentrated power seems to kinda support this. I'll have to think about this one. Destructive Power: Cell after concentrating and storing his ki for a minute or so said he could destroy the solar system so it's plausible that Goku could do the same with a minute or two to rev up as a ssj3. I'd still consider him in normal settings as a multi-planet buster though.
Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Sonata said:

@shonen said:

@Sonata said:

@shonen: You are way off when comes to striking strength, he hasn't shown anything close to that.

So Friezza survives planet exploding with no damage while near death and out of energy, but yet goku strength is below planet level wtf ? if this was the case he wouldn't hurt freiza at all.

What do you mean no damage half his face was gone and he had some energy left Goku did manage to give him some of his. If they can strike down a planet then how come Vegeta and the others could not knock down the Door to Dr. Gero's lair .They once again had to resort to energy waves.

half his face wasn't gone and goku gave him energy which he then used to attack goku, and goku retaliated with blasting him. the explosion did little to no damage to him.

Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@GrayWolf2:

DBO which was written by akira toriyama puts goku at multi solar system buster during the year 801. More specifically being able to destroy at max 60 million solar systems.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,248 posts) See mini bio Level 21

This is the only thing you need to know about Goku, the other stuff isn't important

Striking strength: Multi-planet level+ LOL!

Post by GrayWolf2 (318 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@shonen: Is there any link or site I can go to in order to see that.
Post by Sonata (35,342 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@shonen
 Frieza's face after Namek explosion
 Frieza's face after Namek explosion
Post by Sonata (35,342 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@shonen said:

@GrayWolf2:

DBO which was written by akira toriyama puts goku at multi solar system buster during the year 801. More specifically being able to destroy at max 60 million solar systems.

Linkage please.
Post by valfranx (194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

"Hey guys, in a recent V-jump issue, Gogetas power level was revealed. Also, according to this interview, Gogeta is a little bit stronger than Vegito, while Vegito is a more skilled martial artist. Then again, not sure how many of you would take Akira seriously, because of the speed of light comment. Oh, and the fusion dance multiplier is several-fold."

Akira Toriyama Interview by Nirazaki Tihashiberi

Super Otaku Magazine Issue #297

Toriyama-san has agreed to answer some questions for us today. Much thanks to Toriyama-san after the craze on the Majin Buu period. (Do note that this was not a cover story, and thus, short).

Nirazaki: Many fans have given positive feedback over the Majin Buu period. The inclusion of fusion was an unexpected twist. What gave you the idea?

Toriyama-san: Well in order to have a villain with so much strength, you need someone around that can rival him. Majin Buu is incredibly strong. Its not easy to create a character that can keep up. So I thought of making the characters fuse to create new characters without taking the focus off the main characters.

Nirazaki: There have been many changes since the Saiya-jins came to earth. Do you ever think about the progress?

Toriyama-san: Yes I do. Doragonboru has come a long way. They went from running at super speed to moving at the speed of light! (Laughs)

Nirazaki: There was uproar over the rematch between Son Goku and Bejita. Were you planning this the entire time?

Toriyama-san: (Laughs) It was more of a crowd pleaser. Son Gokuu and Bejita didnt have the opportunity to fight in the Seru period, and with a new saga to start with, it would not be hard to work in that kind of battle.

Nirazaki: Youve been telling everyone how this is the end. Will Doragonboru really end after Majin Buu?

Toriyama-san: Yes. Ive put so much time on Doragonboru I cant do much else. I never expected Doragonboru to be this long in the first place. I think its been concluded on a high note. After all, if I had my way, Id of ended the manga after the Freeza period! (Laughs)

Nirazaki: You like to laugh about this a lot. Will parting with Doragonboru be difficult?

Toriyama-san: On one side, Im relieved. On the other side, its like seeing a child move away.

Nirazaki: I know that a lot of people want to hear more about fusion. With Bejitto now in the story, will he play that big of a role? And most of all, is he stronger than Gojīta himself?

Toriyama-san: Well I dont know yet. Ive planned some things with Bejitto, but he wont be the focus of the entire saga. Youll see as things develop. As for their strength, Gojīta is a little bit stronger, but you wouldnt notice a difference. Still, Bejitto will always be the most skilled martial artist! (Smiles)

Nirazaki: What does that last part mean?

Toriyama-san: Youll find out.

Nirazaki: Ill remember that! One last question.

Toriyama-san: Make it good, you wont get a second chance! Kidding, Ill see you again.

Nirazaki: Is this the end of Doragonboru forever?

Toriyama-san: I dont want to shift the focus, so I have to keep certain things close to their roots.

“The Fusion Dance is a short series of poses that are performed by two characters of equal power levels and roughly equal size. In the series, the result of a correctly performed Fusion Dance is a superior being whose power is multiplied severalfold over that of the individual fusees”

“When one pair of Potara Earrings are worn by a single person they have no special properties. However, if two individuals each wear one earring on opposite ears, the true power of the artifacts is revealed. The earrings have the ability to fuse two people into a single entity, substantially enhancing the abilities of both individuals. The resulting fusion lasts forever, even if the fused being removes the earrings."

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/gogeta-ssj1s-official-power-level-152757/

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,248 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@valfranx:

So they are just Light Speed, so no more of this FTL stuff

Post by Sonata (35,342 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@valfranx: Is there a link to the original article?
Post by valfranx (194 posts) See mini bio Level 10
Post by GrayWolf2 (318 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Valfranx: Are you sure this interview is legit? I've seen this one years ago (except in the one I saw it was talking about Gotenks being a little stronger than Goku) and there's a good debate on whether this "interview" and others are either real or just well done fan made crap.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,248 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@valfranx:

So they false :(

Was hoping they was real

Post by Sonata (35,342 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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Ughh there are some sad people out there.
Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Sonata said:

@shonen:
Frieza's face after Namek explosion
Frieza's face after Namek explosion

That injury was brought on by the blast goku hit him with when frieza attacked him while his back was turned. Notice their is no damage to the rest of his body, and also that's not even half his face.

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