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Post your Top 10 most powerful DBZ villains list. No GT allowed, non-canon movies allowed
 
I think it's prety much like this, my list: 
 
1. Buuhan 
2. Janemba (second form) 
3. Buutenks  
4. Hildegarn 
5. Buff Buu 
6. Super Buu 
7. Evil Buu = Kid Buu 
8. Fat Buu 
9. Good Buu 
10. Super Perfect Cell

@GrayWolf2 said:

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1. Janemba(second form)

2. Buuhan

3. Buutenks

4. Kid Buu

5. Buff Buu 
6.Super Buu 
7. Broly 
8. Hirudegarn
9. Evil Buu
10.Fat Buu
note:  1 and 2 are a pick 'em for me.

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You actually think that Broly > Kirudegarn??? Kid Buu stronger than Super Buu??? WTF?!

Buhan 
Janemba 
Hilldegarn 
Gotenksbuu,kid buu 
supa buu 
fat buu  
broly

@hitsusatsu11 said:

"Buhan Janemba Hilldegarn Gotenksbuu,kid buu supa buu fat buu  broly "

How is Kid Buu stronger than Super Buu?! Doesnt make any sense! Evil Buu = Kid Buu basicaly, Kid Buu is the original form, Super is the Evil Form overpowering the Good Form, creating Super Buu, and we know that if Buu is good he loses power, that's why Fat Buu is weaker than Kid Buu (he was weaken due to the amount of goodness of the Kaioshins he absorbed), but Super Buu is basically a bigger version of Kid Buu, he is pure evil like Kid Buu BUT he could overpower the Good Buu so he could control both Good and Evil forms at once, but with Evil overpowering the Good so Super Buu would be stronger than Kid Buu (Super Buu was even nuts when Vegeta was going to turn Buu into Kid Buu...)

@RadiantTheLight: Kid buu is far stronger than super buu. Evil Buu=/kid buu. Kid buu is the original, most terrible of all buu's. So what if Superbuu is fat buu + evil buu? We know buu doesn't always get stronger from absorption. They wouldn't have the very end villain of Z be the second weakest buu, Kid Buu is the strongest except for Buuhan and possibly -Gotenksbuu-though funny how their goodness dint weaken him like Dai Kaioshin.

@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @RadiantTheLight: Kid buu is far stronger than super buu. Evil Buu=/kid buu. Kid buu is the original, most terrible of all buu's. So what if Superbuu is fat buu + evil buu? We know buu doesn't always get stronger from absorption. They wouldn't have the very end villain of Z be the second weakest buu, Kid Buu is the strongest except for Buuhan and possibly -Gotenksbuu-though funny how their goodness dint weaken him like Dai Kaioshin. "

it seems that you dont understand anything...

@RadiantTheLight: I understand a great deal about DBZ. The only people who have shown me a greater understanding is perhaps Mister Shin. 
 
Evil Buu=/=Kid buu, kill that noise.  
Show me any where it is indicated Supa Buu>>>Kid Buu 
Kid Buu is known as the original and most terrible Buu, we all know how much strength Buu gets when drawing on his ruthlessness. Hell in the dub they say Kid Buu is twice as strong as any other buu, even Mystic Buu lol. 
Do you seriously believe they'd save the second weakest buu for the final Z villain? 
What has Supa Buu done that puts him ahead of kid buu? Get beaten around by Gotenks? Get WTF PWNED by Gohan? 
Kid buu beat SSJ2 Vegeta, Fat Buu, and SSJ3 Goku (because he couldn't get to full power, if he could he would be stronger than Gotenks and Gohan easy) 
Kid Buu also resisted the Chou Genki Dama, though Goku was weakened he still managed to hold it back which is a great feat. 
 
The one thing I will say for Supa Buu is he was able to rip universal boundaries, and kill the population of earth. 
Kid Buu blew up the earth and other planets for fun.

@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @RadiantTheLight: I understand a great deal about DBZ. The only people who have shown me a greater understanding is perhaps Mister Shin.  Evil Buu=/=Kid buu, kill that noise.  Show me any where it is indicated Supa Buu>>>Kid Buu Kid Buu is known as the original and most terrible Buu, we all know how much strength Buu gets when drawing on his ruthlessness. Hell in the dub they say Kid Buu is twice as strong as any other buu, even Mystic Buu lol. Do you seriously believe they'd save the second weakest buu for the final Z villain? What has Supa Buu done that puts him ahead of kid buu? Get beaten around by Gotenks? Get WTF PWNED by Gohan? Kid buu beat SSJ2 Vegeta, Fat Buu, and SSJ3 Goku (because he couldn't get to full power, if he could he would be stronger than Gotenks and Gohan easy) Kid Buu also resisted the Chou Genki Dama, though Goku was weakened he still managed to hold it back which is a great feat.  The one thing I will say for Supa Buu is he was able to rip universal boundaries, and kill the population of earth. Kid Buu blew up the earth and other planets for fun. "

I already told you why Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu is the most terrible Buu, becouse he is not intelegent unlike most of his other forms, what makes him more dangerous, not more powerful. Buu's power comes from evil, and Kid Buu = original form (evil) and Super Buu = original form (evil) + good form (but evil has overpowered the good making Buu way more powerful). Dub is stupid sometimes. The reason Toriyama made Kid Buu the final villain is becouse Goku and Vegeta are nowhere as strong as Gotenks and Mystic Gohan, so it would be a tough chalenge for them. Good Buu couldnt even hit Evil while could hit Kid Buu many times, and Super Buu is way stronger than Evil Buu, Super Buu was at SS3 Gotenks level and Gotenks's power is above Goku's, Mystic Gohan is stronger than SS3 Goku by far, plus, Goku said that a full power SS3 could easly defeat Kid Buu. If you still, for some reason, dont understand why Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu then just watch the video... 
 
     

@GrayWolf2 said:

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@RadianttheLight:  It was stated that kid buu was stronger before he absorbed the kais than after.  They weakened him with the absorptions.  The only time he really got stronger was when he absorbed the saiyans.  That's why he is higher on my list.  "

     

@RadiantTheLight said:

"@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @RadiantTheLight: I understand a great deal about DBZ. The only people who have shown me a greater understanding is perhaps Mister Shin.  Evil Buu=/=Kid buu, kill that noise.  Show me any where it is indicated Supa Buu>>>Kid Buu Kid Buu is known as the original and most terrible Buu, we all know how much strength Buu gets when drawing on his ruthlessness. Hell in the dub they say Kid Buu is twice as strong as any other buu, even Mystic Buu lol. Do you seriously believe they'd save the second weakest buu for the final Z villain? What has Supa Buu done that puts him ahead of kid buu? Get beaten around by Gotenks? Get WTF PWNED by Gohan? Kid buu beat SSJ2 Vegeta, Fat Buu, and SSJ3 Goku (because he couldn't get to full power, if he could he would be stronger than Gotenks and Gohan easy) Kid Buu also resisted the Chou Genki Dama, though Goku was weakened he still managed to hold it back which is a great feat.  The one thing I will say for Supa Buu is he was able to rip universal boundaries, and kill the population of earth. Kid Buu blew up the earth and other planets for fun. "

I already told you why Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu is the most terrible Buu, becouse he is not intelegent unlike most of his other forms, what makes him more dangerous, not more powerful. Buu's power comes from evil, and Kid Buu = original form (evil) and Super Buu = original form (evil) + good form (but evil has overpowered the good making Buu way more powerful). Dub is stupid sometimes. The reason Toriyama made Kid Buu the final villain is becouse Goku and Vegeta are nowhere as strong as Gotenks and Mystic Gohan, so it would be a tough chalenge for them. Good Buu couldnt even hit Evil while could hit Kid Buu many times, and Super Buu is way stronger than Evil Buu, Super Buu was at SS3 Gotenks level and Gotenks's power is above Goku's, Mystic Gohan is stronger than SS3 Goku by far, plus, Goku said that a full power SS3 could easly defeat Kid Buu. If you still, for some reason, dont understand why Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu then just watch the video... 
 
  

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it says nothing on super buu being stronger 
also tell me this why would supreme kai be worried when vegeta, mystic gohan, goten and trunks=gotenks and ss3 goku are out proving who is stronger

@ktarinze said:

"@RadiantTheLight said:

"@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @RadiantTheLight: I understand a great deal about DBZ. The only people who have shown me a greater understanding is perhaps Mister Shin.  Evil Buu=/=Kid buu, kill that noise.  Show me any where it is indicated Supa Buu>>>Kid Buu Kid Buu is known as the original and most terrible Buu, we all know how much strength Buu gets when drawing on his ruthlessness. Hell in the dub they say Kid Buu is twice as strong as any other buu, even Mystic Buu lol. Do you seriously believe they'd save the second weakest buu for the final Z villain? What has Supa Buu done that puts him ahead of kid buu? Get beaten around by Gotenks? Get WTF PWNED by Gohan? Kid buu beat SSJ2 Vegeta, Fat Buu, and SSJ3 Goku (because he couldn't get to full power, if he could he would be stronger than Gotenks and Gohan easy) Kid Buu also resisted the Chou Genki Dama, though Goku was weakened he still managed to hold it back which is a great feat.  The one thing I will say for Supa Buu is he was able to rip universal boundaries, and kill the population of earth. Kid Buu blew up the earth and other planets for fun. "

I already told you why Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu is the most terrible Buu, becouse he is not intelegent unlike most of his other forms, what makes him more dangerous, not more powerful. Buu's power comes from evil, and Kid Buu = original form (evil) and Super Buu = original form (evil) + good form (but evil has overpowered the good making Buu way more powerful). Dub is stupid sometimes. The reason Toriyama made Kid Buu the final villain is becouse Goku and Vegeta are nowhere as strong as Gotenks and Mystic Gohan, so it would be a tough chalenge for them. Good Buu couldnt even hit Evil while could hit Kid Buu many times, and Super Buu is way stronger than Evil Buu, Super Buu was at SS3 Gotenks level and Gotenks's power is above Goku's, Mystic Gohan is stronger than SS3 Goku by far, plus, Goku said that a full power SS3 could easly defeat Kid Buu. If you still, for some reason, dont understand why Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu then just watch the video... 
 
  

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it says nothing on super buu being stronger also tell me this why would supreme kai be worried when vegeta, mystic gohan, goten and trunks=gotenks and ss3 goku are out proving who is stronger "

Super Buu was also worried when he was going to become Kid Buu, he actually tried to stop Vegeta.

@RadiantTheLight: Well we'll have to disagree, I believe Kid Buu is strongest. 

@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @RadiantTheLight: Well we'll have to disagree, I believe Kid Buu is strongest.  "

Even if I gave you the reason of why Super Buu is stronger... you still think Kid Buu is stronger, you just dont change your mind with all the evidences in front of your eyes dont you? 
 
Tell me, how the hell is Kid Buu stronger than Super Buu? I already gave you reasons of why Super Buu is stronger, and you allways use the same argument like "If Super Buu is stronger, why they made Kid Buu the final enemy?". Prove that Kid Buu is stronger, in fact, when it comes to feats, then Evil Buu < Kid Buu. But that wouldnt make much sense since Kid Buu is pure evil as well.

@RadiantTheLight: No, you gave no proof. 
 
Kid Buu-blows up planet, beats Fat Buu, SSJ2 Vegeta, SSJ3 Goku, momentarily holds back Genki Dama, knows Kaioshin Shunkan Ido 
 
Supa Buu-Rips universal boundaries, owned by Gotenks, pwned by Gohan. 
 
Both have transmutation, absorption ect. 
 
Kid Buu was stated as being the original, most terrible-no one made any big deal with super buu. Kids feats are better. 

@hitsusatsu11 said:

"@RadiantTheLight: No, you gave no proof.  Kid Buu-blows up planet, beats Fat Buu, SSJ2 Vegeta, SSJ3 Goku, momentarily holds back Genki Dama, knows Kaioshin Shunkan Ido  Supa Buu-Rips universal boundaries, owned by Gotenks, pwned by Gohan.  Both have transmutation, absorption ect.  Kid Buu was stated as being the original, most terrible-no one made any big deal with super buu. Kids feats are better.  "

Again, absolutly no reason of why Kid Buu is stronger. Evil Buu PWND Good Buu (not Fat Buu, Kid Buu never beated up Fat Buu but yes Good Buu) much easier than Kid Buu pwnd Fat Buu. Fat Buu owned SSJ Vegeta. SSJ3 Goku is much weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks, and Goku even said it himslef that he could easly defeat Kid Buu in full power SSJ3.  
Super Buu was afraid of Vegeta triyng to destroy the "cacoon" where Good Buu was, he was afraid of becoming Kid Buu becouse he would be weaker. 
Goku and Vegeta quicly looked at Kid Buu and sense much less energy than Super Buu, Goku even laughted. 
Goku didnt think he could beat Super Buu, so he wanted Gotenks to try since he was stronger. 
Kid Buu got stronger after absorbing South Kaioshin, but he got weaker by absorbing Dai Kaiohshin. 
Evil Buu owned Good Buu harder than Kid Buu did, Evil Buu overpowered the good one becoming above his original form. 
 
He was the original and most terrible, true, he was more terrible becouse he was a mindless killing machine, while Fat Buu played around and Super Buu wanted to fight stronger oponents. 
 
I could go on with this but it looks like I got no time.
 

@RadiantTheLight: Well lets continue it in the "strongest buu" thread since it seems to be slightly off topic from this thread overall.

@RadiantTheLight said:

"@ktarinze said:

"@RadiantTheLight said:

"@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @RadiantTheLight: I understand a great deal about DBZ. The only people who have shown me a greater understanding is perhaps Mister Shin.  Evil Buu=/=Kid buu, kill that noise.  Show me any where it is indicated Supa Buu>>>Kid Buu Kid Buu is known as the original and most terrible Buu, we all know how much strength Buu gets when drawing on his ruthlessness. Hell in the dub they say Kid Buu is twice as strong as any other buu, even Mystic Buu lol. Do you seriously believe they'd save the second weakest buu for the final Z villain? What has Supa Buu done that puts him ahead of kid buu? Get beaten around by Gotenks? Get WTF PWNED by Gohan? Kid buu beat SSJ2 Vegeta, Fat Buu, and SSJ3 Goku (because he couldn't get to full power, if he could he would be stronger than Gotenks and Gohan easy) Kid Buu also resisted the Chou Genki Dama, though Goku was weakened he still managed to hold it back which is a great feat.  The one thing I will say for Supa Buu is he was able to rip universal boundaries, and kill the population of earth. Kid Buu blew up the earth and other planets for fun. "

I already told you why Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu. Kid Buu is the most terrible Buu, becouse he is not intelegent unlike most of his other forms, what makes him more dangerous, not more powerful. Buu's power comes from evil, and Kid Buu = original form (evil) and Super Buu = original form (evil) + good form (but evil has overpowered the good making Buu way more powerful). Dub is stupid sometimes. The reason Toriyama made Kid Buu the final villain is becouse Goku and Vegeta are nowhere as strong as Gotenks and Mystic Gohan, so it would be a tough chalenge for them. Good Buu couldnt even hit Evil while could hit Kid Buu many times, and Super Buu is way stronger than Evil Buu, Super Buu was at SS3 Gotenks level and Gotenks's power is above Goku's, Mystic Gohan is stronger than SS3 Goku by far, plus, Goku said that a full power SS3 could easly defeat Kid Buu. If you still, for some reason, dont understand why Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu then just watch the video... 
 
  

   "

it says nothing on super buu being stronger also tell me this why would supreme kai be worried when vegeta, mystic gohan, goten and trunks=gotenks and ss3 goku are out proving who is stronger "

Super Buu was also worried when he was going to become Kid Buu, he actually tried to stop Vegeta. "

maybe because he feared how destrucive he would be it doent have anything to do with power

@RadiantTheLight said:

"@hitsusatsu11 said:

" @RadiantTheLight: Well we'll have to disagree, I believe Kid Buu is strongest.  "

Even if I gave you the reason of why Super Buu is stronger... you still think Kid Buu is stronger, you just dont change your mind with all the evidences in front of your eyes dont you?  Tell me, how the hell is Kid Buu stronger than Super Buu? I already gave you reasons of why Super Buu is stronger, and you allways use the same argument like "If Super Buu is stronger, why they made Kid Buu the final enemy?". Prove that Kid Buu is stronger, in fact, when it comes to feats, then Evil Buu < Kid Buu. But that wouldnt make much sense since Kid Buu is pure evil as well. "

i gave you reasons with surpreme kai this  is speculation saying that deadly = weaker is speculation i gave you proof with surpreme kai being worried despite all the z warriors being out including mystic gohan so there you go give me clear solid evidence on how he is stronger not speculation