Proof Gotenks is FTL

Topic started by shonen on July 15, 2012. Last post by sickVisionz 2 years, 3 months ago.
Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

I'd just like to give more accurate information. This is from Viz translation of the manga, so it has little more bearing than the fan translation used by OP.

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Gotenks actually states he travelled the globe a few dozen times. Dozen = 12, Few is anything greater than 2. For the bear minimum that's 36 times.

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If you take the diamter of his trips for all 5 shown laps and compare them with that of the earth you will get these values.

Perimeter of orbit 1: 82,211 km

Perimeter of orbit 2: 75,098 km

Perimeter of orbit 3: 62,361 km

Perimeter of orbit 4: 56,406 km

Perimeter of orbit 5: 44,827 km

That's an average perimeter of 64180 km, multiply that by 36 for bear minimum and that's 2,310,501.6 KM

Now here comes the tricky part how much is a Nap really. Well if we use the anime for our unknown time T in this video we see Gotenks takes roughly 9 secs to make 9 loops, that means that it would take him 36 secs to complete 36 loops.

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Start video at 2:57 sec

Thus, (2,310,501.6 x 10^3) m/36 sec = 64180600 m s^-1

Speed of sound is 340 ms^-1 which is equal to mach 1.

This puts Gotenks travelling speed at Mach 188,766. Speed of Light in vaccum is 881,000 Mach. That puts gotenks travelling speed for the minimum at 0.21 Speed of Light, If goes SSJ2 this would increase to 0.42, and SSJ 3 3.42 Speed of light. Evidence of this comes from Super exciting guide which gives the exact multiplier of the SSJ transformation. This is the minimum speed of gotenks assume that a few means 3, if its higher so to will this number.

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Lastly, I'd just like to point out this isn't his top speed as evident by him saying "I'm sure the speed was proof enough" indicating he can go faster if need be.

Post by sickVisionz (4,307 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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Lastly, I'd just like to point out this isn't his top speed as evident by him saying "I'm sure the speed was proof enough" indicating he can go faster if need be.

There's nothing suggesting that. He just as easily could have been going all out, knowing that his speed at his best would surely be proof enough.

Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@sickVisionz said:

Lastly, I'd just like to point out this isn't his top speed as evident by him saying "I'm sure the speed was proof enough" indicating he can go faster if need be.

There's nothing suggesting that. He just as easily could have been going all out, knowing that his speed at his best would surely be proof enough.

Actually there is. When Goku crossed snake way and reached to earth he was deeply winded and his ki was decreased so low that he needed a senzu bean to replenish his strength.Gotenks on the other hand was confident he could beat Majin Buu, and had energy to spare after his trip around the world.

Post by sickVisionz (4,307 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@shonen: Still not proof that it wasn't his maximum speed. There is no definitive way from what you posted to tell whether or not that is his top speed or not. All we know is that it's a speed he can achieve.

Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@sickVisionz said:

@shonen: Still not proof that it wasn't his maximum speed. There is no definitive way from what you posted to tell whether or not that is his top speed or not. All we know is that it's a speed he can achieve.

yeah actually it is since he would of required a senzu bean and would have shown sweating like goku if it was.

Post by sickVisionz (4,307 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@shonen: I'm talking pure logic here. There is no way to definitively say that's not his maximum. Where in DBZ does it say that sweat = maximum speed? Also, you're comparing non-SSJ Goku to SSJ fused Gotenks.

Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@sickVisionz said:

@shonen: I'm talking pure logic here. There is no way to definitively say that's not his maximum. Where in DBZ does it say that sweat = maximum speed? Also, you're comparing non-SSJ Goku to SSJ fused Gotenks.

it simple logic that if you run at top speed for a given amount of time you are bound to per spire or show fatigue, after your done. If however you are comfortable with a given speed and run same distance you would not show as much fatigue as before.

Post by sickVisionz (4,307 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@shonen: The level of fatigue a non-SSJ gets from running on that bridge for hours or days is not equal to a SSJ-fused one doing maximum speed for like 3 seconds.

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