Is Ki Magic?

Topic started by Mortein on Jan. 19, 2010. Last post by mypasswordis1234 1 year, 9 months ago.
Post by DBZ_universe (15,887 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@MarioRedfield said:

If ki was magic then almost everyone in the DB universe would be a magic user. There's really nothing about ki that makes it magical

What about Piccolo's powers? let alone Buu's?

Post by MarioRedfield (1,922 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@DBZ_universe said:

@MarioRedfield said:

If ki was magic then almost everyone in the DB universe would be a magic user. There's really nothing about ki that makes it magical

What about Piccolo's powers? let alone Buu's?

@Sonata said:

@LelouchCommandsYou: No magic as been stated before with the use of the Dragonballs. Buu is a special case because he possess Ki and Magic. The magic is the uses of the candy beam and his ability to alter the outcome of the Martial Tournament drawing as Goku wished. If Ki was the same as magic Goku could have easily done what Buu did, and changed the tournament pairings easily. It is also proven that Buu possesses Ki because it was seen during the fight with Kid Buu that he can become exhausted and weaker when fighting a much more powerful enemy like everyone else in DBZ.
Post by DBZ_universe (15,887 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@MarioRedfield said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@MarioRedfield said:

If ki was magic then almost everyone in the DB universe would be a magic user. There's really nothing about ki that makes it magical

What about Piccolo's powers? let alone Buu's?

@Sonata said:

@LelouchCommandsYou: No magic as been stated before with the use of the Dragonballs. Buu is a special case because he possess Ki and Magic. The magic is the uses of the candy beam and his ability to alter the outcome of the Martial Tournament drawing as Goku wished. If Ki was the same as magic Goku could have easily done what Buu did, and changed the tournament pairings easily. It is also proven that Buu possesses Ki because it was seen during the fight with Kid Buu that he can become exhausted and weaker when fighting a much more powerful enemy like everyone else in DBZ.

lol, I didn't see that.

anywho's I know what Ki is and it's spiritual energy that comes from our life form.

Post by MarioRedfield (1,922 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@DBZ_universe: Ki itself in't magic. That's my only point.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,887 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@MarioRedfield: KI also protects you from magic and makes magic look worthless.

Vegito still keeping his powers as a candy is an example, cause of his high KI the magic didn't work completely, another is SSJ4 Goku cause he goes from kid to his original adult size cause his KI is overpowering the magic of the Black Star Dragon (which has to restriction and is the strongest dragon), Vegeta resisting Babidi's control is another as well.

KI can be used to reverse magic IMO.

Post by LelouchCommandsYou (77 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Sonata: When did Kid Buu ever weaken? I remember him being relentless the whole time.

Post by Sonata (35,693 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@LelouchCommandsYou: Not Kid Buu, Fat Buu.
Post by LelouchCommandsYou (77 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Sonata: So what makes Ki able to do things like screaming holes in dimensions? That's magic as far as I can see. And then there's creating ghosts (Gotenks Kamikaze attack) that have minds of their own aside from not being able to defy Gotenks I suppose but they act on their own in a fight and can strategize separately.

Post by Sonata (35,693 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@LelouchCommandsYou: Actually that wasn't Ki or magic that caused the hole in the hyperbolic time chamber. But the use of Sonic Vibrations from their voice causing the rift.  As for the Ghost Kamikaze  they are also Ki based because they let out an explosion of energy to damage an opponent. If they were truly magical they could have morphed into an entirely different material like a rope or chain when making contact with an enemy. Instead they simply exploded on contact with an object like a regular ki blast would do.
Post by MisterShin (2,127 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Super Ghost Kamikazi, it has its own conscience wtf?

Post by debeze (222 posts) See mini bio Level 9

ki is chi =energy.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Yes, it's magical. Not just those things the magical what summoned with some spell. For example, Captain Marvel's punches are particularly or fully magical, but he isn't a wizard.

Ki is made from 3 components: mind, courage, energy.

An energy like this isn't exist and cannot be explained by science. By definition, it's supernatural, magic.

I don't say it should be considered in a fight vs Superman or such, but this is the truth.

Also someone mentioned the magic can change matters, or what. Ki is can be formed as lighting, fire, ice....

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