DBZ Hate

Topic started by RadiantTheLight on May 2, 2010. Last post by Fire Star 3 years, 6 months ago.
Post by RadiantTheLight (733 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Why do people from Comic Vine and some from Anime Vice hate DBZ? I think it's awesome. 
 
But why they always underpower DBZ characters in debates? DBZ Haters say bad about Dragon Ball and do anything to make DBZ characters look weak.
Post by Ryokan (291 posts) See mini bio Level 12
 
Never really hated DBZ, it's the show that really make the break on manga in my country. 
 
Now, the anime is good, but it has too many episode with fill in, to many "drama power-up" that let yo the time to go prepare yourself a breakfeast untill the real action begin. 
 
Sure, it start to show his age but still...the manga is still good.
Post by Burntlettuce (155 posts) See mini bio Level 14
I think DBZ was great, but that was when I was back as a kid. Now it's lost all it's flair and I just get annoyed by how long everything is dragged out. I do plan on trying kai, but I need the dub before I do. 
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
I don't really hate DBZ. I hate the DBZ fanboys who exaggerate the powers of their favorite characters and do not accept that they can be defeated.
 
ND
Post by Mortein (1,558 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@RadiantTheLight said:

" Why do people from Comic Vine and some from Anime Vice hate DBZ? I think it's awesome.  But why they always underpower DBZ characters in debates? DBZ Haters say bad about Dragon Ball and do anything to make DBZ characters look weak. "

 
  Because it is too unclear how strong, fast and powerful DBZ characters are
 
Strength: It is possible, and quite logical that they should be able to lift millions, if not billions of tons, however they never lifted anything heavier then 40T (on a planet with unknown gravity)
 
Speed: It is even possible that they have reached light speed at the beginning of DBZ (Goku moving as fast as lighting while he was kid, raditz dodging attack that was called light of death, and we have also seen that Piccolos blast can reach moon in matter of seconds), but still there is no solid enough evidence  that they ever reached light speed, not even at the end of DBZ.
 
blasting power: Master roshi and piccolo destroyed the moon, one had Pl 139 and the other between 500-2000. after that there is no single solid feat from which we could see how powerful they are. Sure, Vegeta (PL18 000) stated he can destroy the planet, Frieza stated how he effortlessly destroyed a planet Vegeta (with 10x bigger gravity then earth, which most likely means it has much bigger mass then earth) in his weakest form (PL 530 000) , Cell stated he can destroy whole solar system, but those are all statements not feats.
 between saiyan saga and kid buu saga, they have stated over 20 times how they can destroy the earth, but only kid buu actually destroyed it. 
Post by ssjsuperman (1,661 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@Newdeath said:
" I don't really hate DBZ. I hate the DBZ fanboys who exaggerate the powers of their favorite characters and do not accept that they can be defeated. ND "
Post by wwfunderaker (485 posts) See mini bio Level 15
I dont hate it but i dont think i can start to watch DBZ. 
Post by rein (5,465 posts) See mini bio Level 15
The only thing i hate about DBZ is the Fluctuations of their power, and the fact that they Rarely Back their statements up with feats. If they Showed Cell destroying Solar systems, Or Goku Moving FTL, i would definitely enjoy the series more.
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@rein said:
" The only thing i hate about DBZ is the Fluctuations of their power, and the fact that they Rarely Back their statements up with feats. If they Showed Cell destroying Solar systems, Or Goku Moving FTL, i would definitely enjoy the series more. "
the only person who manage to destroy a planet?
 
Frieza, vegeta, and Buu
 
that's it
Post by Dream (8,313 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@Newdeath said:

" I don't really hate DBZ. I hate the DBZ fanboys who exaggerate the powers of their favorite characters and do not accept that they can be defeated. ND "

This has pretty much been killing my enjoyment of participating in the Battles forum as of late. Even with the restrictions on particular matches, it hasn't stopped DBZ fanboys from exaggerating about the feats of the characters and not getting there's enough inconsistencies and hyperbole to be found in the series.
 
@rein said:

" The only thing i hate about DBZ is the Fluctuations of their power, and the fact that they Rarely Back their statements up with feats. If they Showed Cell destroying Solar systems, Or Goku Moving FTL, i would definitely enjoy the series more. "


My problem with DBZ was that it just kept dragging on and on having a bad enough habit of making a big deal out of anything when either the claims aren't backed up or events in the series keep getting changed for the sheer convenience of plot. Make a big deal out of Goku being the first in many millenniums to be a SSJ, the major Saiyan characters are capable of becoming SSJ by the Cell saga. Frieza brags that Namek blows up in 5 minutes, it takes nearly a dozen episodes for this to happen. Goku dies on Namek with no way off the planet, Toriyama makes a weak excuse saying Goku got in a space pod when it was clearly shown he was left with no way off the planet after escaping Frieza's spaceship falling into a ravine of lava. I could go on and on over the many things DBZ makes a big deal of and just doesn't deliver or screws up continuity with its plot.
Post by Whiskeyjack (111 posts) See mini bio Level 19
With Dragon Ball running for so long and the need to always have the next foe be more powerful than the previous one.. the scale of things got more than a little ridiculous in my opinion. I won't argue that most if not all long-running shows get into this cycle, but DBZ does it bigger than most.
 Another problem with being so long, is that I found the tropes of the shonen action series to really start grating after a while, in a way I might not have in a shorter story.  Maybe I just don't like the genre enough.
 
Oh! Plus, all the hipster anime fans out there hate anything mainstream.
Post by Kelleth (7,798 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@Newdeath said:
" I don't really hate DBZ. I hate the DBZ fanboys who exaggerate the powers of their favorite characters and do not accept that they can be defeated. ND "
This and that i`d rather prefer DB over the other two seasons :P
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
some ppl just dislike a great show. 
Post by Dream (8,313 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Dream: I don't care what that website says, they ranked EoE a 2 star so they don't have much review cred with me 
Post by Dream (8,313 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Someone didn't bother to click on the other two links.
Post by Mortein (1,558 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@Dream: Indeed. I've seen you suffer over there Dream. 
 
@Kelleth: I personally enjoyed the Frieza Saga and the Cell Saga (Which was the best in my opinion) although the Majin Buu Saga just sucked the nuts and DBGT was f@ckin bullsh!t. 
 
ND
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Dream said:
" Someone didn't bother to click on the other two links. "
What do i care what those reviews say? 
If you write for them then cool, good for you that you review stuff, im glad for you. I could point out that dbz is the most popular anime of all time world wide, but i won't because it doesn't matter to me whats popular, i just like dbz because its cool and the fights kick ass imo the best fight scenes in any anime or manga, and theres so many of them-even secondary fights (non main ones) like fighting with the ginyu force, vegeta vs 18, picollo vs 17 are all cool imo, even the original db series has amazing fights GT not so much although it has it's moments. 
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,389 posts) See mini bio Level 21

I used to like Dragon Ball Z but now it just drive me crazy 
I still like Dragon Ball
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