DB-DBZ-DBGT Strenght or Powerscale.

Topic started by eddz99 on Nov. 4, 2012. Last post by eddz99 1 year, 11 months ago.
Post by eddz99 (2,577 posts) See mini bio Level 11

So.. people are saying that db cannot even bust a star.. and is not FTL...

Before reading this, please do not say it's all hyperbole or "powerlevels are bullshit!" because cannon is cannon, end of story.

Here is roshi destroying the moon at mere 139 Battle power.

Here is picolo destroying a moon at 300+ BP and the blast reached the moon in mere seconds!

http://www.comicvine.com/dragon-balls/18-46445/combat-speed-of-dragon-ball-characters/92-649740/#1

In mortein's post shows that the combat and travel speed of dragonball characters are FTL, also,

as shown above that picolo's blast reached the moon in mere seconds, in one episode of dragonball Z, vegeta evaded frieza's beam which was much much much faster (Probably even FTL+) that means they already have lightspeed++ reaction and lightspeed speed .

Now going by maths:

As vegeta stated in the saiyan saga that he could well destroy a planet easily with just 18,000 BP, he probably isn't lying since

Earth = 49.3x moon

Which means 18,000 / 139 = 129.496 which is well above 49.3

129.496 / 49.3 = 2.61 that means vegeta at 18,000 BP can destroy two and a half of earth he can also destroy 128.673 moons in one blast

So Goku SSJ1 at 150,000,000 BP can destroy 21889x Earth in one blast, while sun is 1,303,533.017x Earth he still can't destroy a sun at 150,000,000 BP.

Since broly has 1,400,000,000 BP at 1.4b BP he can destroy 204,299 earths (but goku SSJ3 maybe can 1 shot the sun since he has well beyond 6b BP and as stated here http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Timeline "Age 801

Goku goes missing. Both Goku and Vegeta knew their lives were near an end, and leave Earth for a final battle. Years later, supernovas are detected; they are assumed to be from Goku and Vegeta's battle..." they were strong enough to create supernovas)

So that means there is no way that he could have one shotted a galaxy because a galaxy is bigger than a sun. and yes the fact that omega shenron can destroy a universe is shit. ( maybe he can destroy/1-shot a galaxy though )

50,000,000,000 is the BP of Gogeta SSJ4 (atleast) as explained here: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Black60dragon/Super_Saiyan_4_Gogeta_Power_Level

SSJ4 Gogeta would be enough to destroy 5.597x SUN.

But if we go by the theory of gogeta being userxuser then he may be even able to one shot a universe.

As stated here:

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Snake_Way

Snake way is 1,000,000 KM , goku traveled it in mere 2 days with about 9,000 BP Which would mean he traveled at 5.786 KM a second!

Since speed of light is 299792.458 KM per second he could already travel 0.7 Lightspeed in a day with a mere 9,000 BP!

Since BPs should mean practically everything ( as shown in the series, those who have higher BP is the faster than the lower BP. ) It's safe to calculate it like this

150,000,000 / 9,000 = 16666.666x more BP which means 16666.666 x 0.7 = 11666.666, he could already travel 11666.666x Lightspeed in a day that means he can travel 3.240x Lightspeed per second!

If that formula is correct, it's safe to assume that he is FTL after the fight with frieza."

Their durability is not bad either, people who are saying that thor's hammer will punch a whole through gogeta ssj4 is bull, if ssj1 goku cannot even affect perfect cell and gohan ssj2 is stronger that means gohan has a durability of atleast tanking a 28,000 earth busting attack.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@eddz99:

"So that means there is no way that he could have one shotted a galaxy"

"But if we go by the theory of gogeta being userxuser then he may be even able to one shot a universe."

How do you imagine an "one shot" if the galaxy/universe is there in every direction?

Post by eddz99 (2,577 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@mypasswordis1234: Please make it clearer.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@eddz99: The one shot is when somebody destroy something with only one shot, or with a gigantic energy ball around him like King Vegeta did. So did you mean it literally? Because I think this is an exaggeration.

Post by Kurohige (3,743 posts) See mini bio Level 19

I think Hitsusatsu11 made a super long detailed post like this a while ago, this is nothing new but coll nontheless. But like the post above I think some of it is a bit exaggerated.

Post by redbird3rdboywonder (180 posts) See mini bio Level 8

IMO trying to bring math into DBZ is like using Rocket science into a simple math equation, it's pointless especially when everything is based off of speculation.

Post by SuperperfectCell (528 posts) See mini bio Level 10

1 shot a galaxy or universe....

Cant be done, even if they have the power to do so their energy attacks would have to expand and engulf said galaxy or universe.

So lets just say they have the power to but not the capability to actually pull it off.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@SuperperfectCell: I think the same, if they would destroying more than a planet, then they would do that with more ki balls. Doesn't matter how strong a planet bust or star bust, that won't reach the next planet/solar system, the distance is too big.

Post by eddz99 (2,577 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@redbird3rdboywonder: Actually Powerlevels are basically EVERYTHING on dbz, so we can assume that we can calculate it like that.@SuperperfectCel@mypasswordis1234: l: If gogeta ssj4 is really userxuser that would be 18,000,000,000 x 18,000,000,000, maybe it would take him time to charge, also the blast's speed will also be faster than light because of the PL he applies, Picolo's blast reached the moon within seconds.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@eddz99: I knew that, but technically he is not able to "one shot" more than a solar system. The next solar systems is light-years away.... He would have to shot more ki blasts.

Post by eddz99 (2,577 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@mypasswordis1234: Actually, the radius will also be bigger since he can massively charge a ki, and yes PL's are everything including the size of your dick.

Post by mypasswordis1234 (196 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@eddz99: Yeah, but not by that much. There are light-years distances. Do you know how much is that? 1 light second is 300 000 km/sec. Even if they could create so much ki, it's useless in the empty space. A fast ki ball better.

Post by redbird3rdboywonder (180 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@eddz99: Yes even though power levels are everything, the last official power level in the manga was a reading of 5given to a supressed Trunks, the others were given those power levels later on, which is why I said everything is based off of speculation.

Post by eddz99 (2,577 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@redbird3rdboywonder: Agreed , but since most of the people agree with this bp's i'm using it,@mypasswordis1234:

Picolo's blast traveled the moon in seconds with just 1200... and 50,000,000,000 = 1200 x 41666666

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