Watch & Learn: COWBOY BEBOP #12

Topic started by No_name_here on Oct. 1, 2010. Last post by No_name_here 3 years, 10 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (854 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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 Go on and wave that big gun you, Spike, you big softie!
 Go on and wave that big gun you, Spike, you big softie!

Awwww… even suave Mr. Cool Spike Spiegel has his tender spot. He probably would’ve chided Jet for getting all bent out of shape over his ex in episode #10 and, now, here he is, going off the deep end about this Julia; the one that got away.   I’m usually not one to criticize a show for detailing every little bad experience the characters have had - - I’d rather have broadly-drawn caricatures than schmaltzy sympathy-seekers - - but, man, this cast really needed some fleshing out for me to care enough to want to continue watching. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that I’ve been enjoying this show that much more lately... since they’ve been getting more into these goons’ backstories lately. On that note, considering how disinterested I was over the last episode Vicious appeared in, it speaks to the importance of character development and context that I actually enjoyed his re-appearance here.

And by the way, aside from Faye ganking the Bebop’s safe, is her departure really that much of a loss for the crew? Maybe I wasn’t paying attention close enough attention, but I can’t seem to recall why they even let her tag along with them in the first place. All she’s seemed to do since then is gripe and con these guys out of one thing or another (thankfully it wasn’t Jet’s clothes this time.)  And, even with her dangerous curves and skimpy outfits, neither of these guys seem attracted to her enough to keep her around for that sort of reason. Am I missing something important?

Edward, on the other hand, is quickly becoming my favorite character on this show (and not for the reasons Lemon put in my head last episode.) I don’t know what it is… it’d be so easy for her to become the kind of annoying kid that ruins shows... but I find her endlessly endearing. Maybe it’s because she’s kind of “spaz savant” in this universe’s very-90s vision of cyberspace?

Anyway, this episode was called “Jupiter Jazz Part 1.” Read my comments on the previous episode here.

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Post by WarlordPayne (33 posts) See mini bio Level 5
I think Faye ended up staying on the ship for the same reasons Ein and Ed have, as annoyed as Spike and Jet pretend to be about the whole situation I think they just enjoy the company.  When it was just the two of them they were in control but I get the feeling that they were kind of lonely and bored.  Despite Spike's claim of not wanting women, kids, or pets on the ship he's the one that brought Ein on. 
 
I'm right with you on Ed.  I always hate the token kid they throw into shows but she's just so damned crazy I can't help but love her.  I think part of why she's likable is that she's actually useful to the crew, whereas most kids in shows are at best a waste of space and at worst actively hindering the heroes' progress.
Post by sotyfan16 (1,341 posts) See mini bio Level 20

 I think part of why she's likable is that she's actually useful to the crew, whereas most kids in shows are at best a waste of space and at worst actively hindering the heroes' progress.

While this is true; it makes it a lot easier for Spike and Jet since Ed acts like a boy (even with the borderline nudity). If Ed was older then this show would have a different spin on it. But in contrast I will say that there are also children that pose as motivation for protagonists.
Post by vergilius (147 posts) See mini bio Level 13
I think the "they're just lonely" angle WarlordPayne brought up is about right.  And if you like Ed, she gets an episode focused on her after the two-parter.
 
Re: character development...
 
Bebop does this as sort of a slow boil, and does it on-the-fly.  It's also a case of the journey being the destination.  By the end of the show, I remember feeling like I had finally gotten to know the characters very well, and then it ends.  You'd think that would feel like a missed opportunity, but it doesn't really, and there's always the movie or watching the series again if you want to see the characters more.
 
I have some thoughts about the Spike-Julia situation, but those are probably best saved for later on.
Post by zaldar (1,239 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@vergilius:  I had the exact opposite experience from you Ver and I think that is what I don't like about it...not much is ever resolved, I mean if I want that I have real life...
Post by endaround (19 posts) See mini bio Level 7
About here is where the series really comes together (I believe Toys in The Attic is the turning point but some think this episode is since this is where the main story starts to surface).  The actors seem to finally get their characters and the story lines start to intersect more and more.  You still don't have the direct serialization you'll have in other series but more and more its assumed you know what has happened before.
Post by ronat1 (127 posts) See mini bio Level 18

:)
Post by No_name_here (854 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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@WarlordPayne: That seems like a solid explanation. Boredom motivates so many thigns.
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@endaround: I think the turning point for me was the episode where Jet confronted his ex and her lover.
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