Watch & Learn: CODE GEASS #22

Topic started by No_name_here on May 24, 2011. Last post by ninjadude853 3 years, 10 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (871 posts) See mini bio Level 11
Watch out! Euphemia's got the penny eyes!
Watch out! Euphemia's got the penny eyes!
Did you honestly believe that by simply threatening me, I would shoot you?

Oh man… this show’s become a source of such levity for me every other day. It is giving me some belly laughs, let me tell you. I feel like I should be watching this in a theater with an audience that’s encouraged to participate like they would at a screening of ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW or THE ROOM. All this carnage ensues because the geass finally went off half-cocked like a soda bottle that’d been shaken too often. We told you to stop playing with it! We’d said it’d shoot your eye out! But you didn’t listen!

I just… I just… wow.

This was supposed to be some horrifying shocker, but it actually felt like some extended case of black humor. Like something I’d see on THE ADDAMS FAMILY.


My mind wanders more to all the possibilities of what might happen if Lelouch commanded people to do nonsensical or downright impossible things. “Suzaku, I’ve been listening to the Vapors a lot, lately, so now, I command you to start…TURNING JAPANESE!!!” Gallant sir Suzaku would then get into all kinds of Asimov-like logic conflicts while trying to fulfill that seemingly-redundant command.

Somehow, I turned around and lost track of how far along in the series we are. There are only four episodes left so, even though I’ve been told that there’s going to be a big cliffhanger for season two, it’s pretty clear we’re angling along in the end game right now. There’s obviously no going back with this, now. Even despite Euphemia’s frankly ditzy attempts to diffuse Lelouch’s fury, his hand was forced to draw a line in the sand and now, more than ever, it’s going to be blood for blood with the Brittanians.

But why do I still feel like all these kids are still going to have another regular school day before the day of decision? It’s the end of the semester, right? Don’t they have a prom to worry about?

Watch this episode "Bloodstaiend Euphy" below, decide for yourself and then read my comments on the previous episode here.

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of HYBRID BASTARDS! & UNIMAGINABLE. Order them on Amazon here & here. Follow him on Twitter: @tompinchuk

Post by Lurkero (431 posts) See mini bio Level 7
I was very disappointed that Lelouch didn't abuse the Geass power more often. Could have made up for some of the ridiculous plot revelations later
Post by ninjadude853 (464 posts) See mini bio Level 12
I am incapable of watching the scene where the shooting starts... well, i guess i can, but i really, really don't like to. I watched it the first time, then skipped through it when rewatching it.

I want to bring this up real quick, before it happened, Euphie convinced Lelouch he was wrong. Even though it all got shot straight to hell, that's still pretty freaking impressive.

Poor poor Euphie
Post by sotyfan16 (1,342 posts) See mini bio Level 20
..And cue my frantic evil laugh while watching Euphie slay the Japanese. I certainly thought, "Oh shit!" when I saw this ep for the first time. But now I enjoy the gruesome moments as much as anything else, just like in Death Note.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,654 posts) See mini bio Level 25

That screenshot of the blood and the flag. I actually selected that image for the episode profiles on Anime Vice for the symbolism. I thought it summed up the event and the title without actually spoiling the event.

It's just so telling how easily the Britannian soldiers are about committing genocide on orders. There's basically no hesitation about gunning down unarmed civilians.

Pretty much, the levity is gone. Things are going to start getting deeper and people you know are going to start dying. Lelouch has no way back, now. His Geass is active and he can no longer turn it off.

This is a prime example that the Geass command of Lelouch is absolute. There is no resisting. Though, that moment of hesitation shows just how against her nature that command is. Even for a second she did resist.

Post by ninjadude853 (464 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@FoxxFireArt: It was more than a second, she fought it around a minute. Which just adds to the impressiveness as well as the horror. First she convinced Lelouch to see things her way, then she becomes the first person to resist Geass.
Post by kurovet (1 posts) See mini bio Level 4

yeah the moment when euphie resists the geass as not to kll suzaku really got me

Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@ninjadude853 said:
I am incapable of watching the scene where the shooting starts... well, i guess i can, but i really, really don't like to. I watched it the first time, then skipped through it when rewatching it. I want to bring this up real quick, before it happened, Euphie convinced Lelouch he was wrong. Even though it all got shot straight to hell, that's still pretty freaking impressive. Poor poor Euphie
This was my reaction... Just disappointing and sad. 
Post by NakAttack (33 posts) See mini bio Level 10
The first time I saw this I couldn't get this image out of my head.
Post by Lifestrike (6 posts) See mini bio Level 5
I'm noticing that in the last 3 anime I watched, there is always a kind of "atrocity" episode.

Code Geass: 22. Euphemia goes on a gun rampage and murders a ton of people. Her dream is crushed, everyone cries, blood is everywhere. A marked shift in severity.

Full Metal Alchemist: 5. Shou Tucker turns an innocent girl into a hideous abomination. Everyone is sad. A marked shift in severity.

Gurren Lagann: 8. Kamina dies. The show unapologetically (and quite abruptly) establishes the concept of death and sorrow, where one previously did not exist. Everyone is sad.

What's wierd is that there only seems to be one "atrocity" episode per anime... It's something they visit briefly, then proceed forward at the normal tone of the show. It's very jarring (to me, a North American)

Not that I don't like it; I find it satisfying to guess (or be surprised) when one appears. Except Gantz; that show had an atrocity every two episodes. Quite sadistic.
Post by vergilius (147 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Despite all the mood swings in this show, and all the moments that stretched plausibility, this was the first moment in this series to really flat out break my suspension of disbelief. I thought it was just bad writing, quite frankly. Even though they set up (through Mao if I am remembering the name right) that this sort of thing could happen, it still feels like it comes totally out of left field. I don't feel like they ever really deal with the implications of this either. If you are going to break your invincible juggernaut character like Lelouch is broken here, there need to be lasting consequences. And yet it feels like everything is back to business as usual almost immediately.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of ways in which this episode works in context--we needed to see a diplomatic solution be tried and then fail, we needed to establish Lelouch's personal stake in the cause of the Japanese, rather than just his own personal vendetta, and we needed the good(?) guys to take a loss. The execution was was even more hamfisted than usual for this show. They have been pushing the melodrama in this show, but in a bend-don't-break kind of way. Here it just snaps. "I accidentally the whole arena" isn't a plot twist, it's an internet meme. They tried so hard to make it shocking and grotesque that it just ended up being uncomfortable and in poor taste--if you are going to bust out the genocide card, you had better handle it with either (a) some degree of subtlety, or (b) some extreme gravitas. This episode just lacks both of those things, and indeed the idiom of the series as a whole just isn't right for the subject matter. The show works because it asks us to swallow it's mood swings and it's plot twists by wrapping everything in purposefully overwrought seriousness. The implication of this is that the show is saying to us, almost always, "yes, something ridiculous just happened; yes we know it is pushing the border from drama into comedy; just go with it." But I couldn't play along for this episode. The magic was missing.

As the lynchpin of this episode, and in may ways the first major turning point in this series since Lelouch acquires his powers, we have the kill order. It is so completely contrived it hurts to think about. If you have a loaded gun, you do not go waving it at people jocularly talking about how you could totally shoot them right now. Seriously, no one would do that. I get that Lelouch is "just a high schooler," but he'd never been that reckless before and isn't ever that reckless again as far as I remember.

I've had that rant pent up in me ever since Watch & Learn started blogging Code Geass, and damn if it doesn't feel good to finally have let it fly.
Post by zaldar (1,366 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@lifestrike: You could also watch now and then here and there for a show that has an atrocity every episode but still tries to keep levity. 

Ah yes the geas is now active all the time...cue the secrets being revealed and things chaninging.  Your response of laughter is fairly appropriate really.  The level of ridiculous was pretty high in this epsiode and only goes up from here..

I can't wait.

@vergilius I don't know arrogance and recklessness are kind of lulu's trademark to some extent....he goes to both ends of the spectrum very quickly.  Don't them have him do a captin bly at one point (twirling balls in his hand?)
Post by ninjadude853 (464 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@vergilius: I'm glad you brought this up. Overall, I'm inclined to agree. The execution of this particular twist was weak. There was some foreshadowing, in both Mao's geass and the headaches Lelouch had throughout the episode. But it wasn't prominent enough to save this from being called anything other than contrived.

That said, within five minutes of seeing this scene for the first time i had an idea, a theory if you will, about exactly why Lelouch lost control at that moment. Throughout the series Lelouch is completely focused on his goal of destroying Britannia. And when i say completely focused i mean completely focused. He is utterly resolute in his goals. That conviction, that constant act of keeping his goal in sight is what drove him. It was essentially his reason for living. This point is the first time that conviction is really tested, actually, forget tested, Euphie pretty much convinced him to give it up. She convinced him to just live in peace in the special zone, she made him lose his conviction, and with it, his control of Geass. He lost control at that moment because he didn't know why he was fighting. I don't know if that's what the writers were thinking, but i believe this theory to the point that even if those writers came up to me and told me i was full of shit, i wouldn't listen to them.

EDIT: ALL THAT SAID... and i still have to admit it was a really weak plot twist. Overall the first season is really well done plotwise, but this particular twist is weak.

Oh, and speaking of V.V., Tom, if you're reading this, you are going to laugh your ass off when you see the blond kid next episode. I guarantee it.
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