Watch & Learn: CODE GEASS #5

Topic started by No_name_here on April 17, 2011. Last post by sharingan_eyes 3 years, 3 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (854 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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 She kinda reminds me of the bassist of White Zombie. Anybody agree?
 She kinda reminds me of the bassist of White Zombie. Anybody agree?

Ha! So this is a romantic comedy, now! Lelouch and C.C. might not be quite like Gregory Peck and Audrey Hepburn but lord help me if their little repartee isn’t just steaming with charming romantic tension. Of course, as far as “meet cutes” go, you can’t get much more memorable than the girl emerging from a pod and granting the boy nigh-omnipotent powers of suggestion. And what cruel irony… will he ever be able to use that power to make her love him?

And Suzaku gets his own love interest, as if only to further the parallels that exist between him and Lelouch. I find it kind of amusing how the Britannians are basically like, “Oh, alright… whatever,” when he gets brought back in and just drop all those pesky murder and treason charges like they weren’t really a big deal. I suppose he’s going to be cruising on easy street now that he’s got the princess as his girlfriend. Come to think of, he probably could’ve gotten away with actually killing Clovis if she told the official heavies to lay off.

The attempt at realpolitik in this is alternately intriguing and amusing. I don’t think I’m ever going to stop being amused by how this has demonized the Brits in a way that makes THE PATRIOT look complimentary by comparison. I guess the best analog would be to some futuristic show about America getting conquered by the power mechs of some absurd straw man threat like, oh, say, the Grand Proletarian Federation of Canada.  Perhaps this is payback for any number of “yellow peril” storylines that might’ve run in British comics during the 40s.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a great show so far. I just think it would’ve been better served by a setting that was cut from whole cloth like ESCAFLOWNE instead of this at-times awkward middle ground between fantasy and reality. I suspect this will be the chibi and spurious fuhrer-usage in FMA - - something I’ll get used to, if never accepting of.

Watch this episode "The Princess and the Witch" below, decide for yourself and then read my comments on the previous episode here.  

  

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Post by ninjadude853 (464 posts) See mini bio Level 12
CC in a romance? Ha! Suzaku going down easy street? Ha! Oh Tom, you have no idea what's going to happen...

But on a more serious note, i want to say that the Brits get better over time. Right now at the start of the series they're all evil, but as the series goes on and more shit goes down that starts to vanish and things get more and more gray. Gray enough for me to spend a number of posts arguing that they aren't pure evil in the last article (still evil, just not all that evil).

By the end of the series I had absolutly no idea who i was rooting for. I knew who i was rooting against. But not for. Even upon re watching it (finished R2 a few hours ago) I wasn't sure who I was rooting for even though I knew how it ended.
Post by sotyfan16 (1,341 posts) See mini bio Level 20
It still surprises me how quickly events move from episode to episode while still having enough for 2 25 ep seasons.

I have to agree with ninjadude853 with how all the Britannians are in the same boat. But that is only for the time being as later events introduce fateful trials in choosing which side to be on.

Much like when you were watching Death Note, Tom, watch for how you assume from one ep to the next as a number of things change. Also, Code Geass is another series that takes the more serious route so no chibi or qualms with killing/mired political orders like you were wary of with FMA. Good job not making a Death Note reference, either.
Post by Count_Zero (344 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Also - if Crunchyroll still has it streaming when you finish Code Geass - check out the original Mobile Suit Gundam. I'd be interested in seeing your comparison of Lelouch and a certain other masked anime character I recently did a wiki-edit for.
Post by Lurkero (399 posts) See mini bio Level 7
An anime with teenagers and no romantic comedy? IMPOSSIBLE! (You'll know when you get to the filler episode).
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,638 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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The man's an idiot when it comes to the hearts of girls.
The man's an idiot when it comes to the hearts of girls.
I actually liked the Lelouch and Kallen scene more in this episode. he grabs her face to avoid her seeing C.C. She's blushing and asks what he's doing, and he coyly asks himself that as well. As I keep saying, the subtitles are way better. You aren't hearing that utter anger in Lelouch's voice at C.C. and the removed confusion when he replies to Kallen. He honestly sounds just can confused as she does.

Lelouch is a sort of character where he knows the ins and outs of military strategy, but women are a complete mystery. He's so focused on taking care of Nunnally that he notices little else. Naturally, that aloofness only seems to attract a lot more women.

@lurkero:
Technically, this series can't really have fillers since the anime is the original concept project. Filler implies something that is added to extend the story beyond that of the canon material.
Post by Lurkero (399 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@FoxxFireArt said:

@lurkero: Technically, this series can't really have fillers since the anime is the original concept project. Filler implies something that is added to extend the story beyond that of the canon material. "

That's the accepted definition of filler, but my definition is more broad. Western cartoons (and some TV shows) specifically seem to have episodes where there is no progression of plot or character and relies on a whole episode gag.
With Code Geass I specifically refer to the episode
It's been a while, but I remember not liking that episode because it felt pointless, especially to be so late in the season.

One Piece is also a good example of filler that's actually canon. There are a lot of segments in One Piece that don't seem necessary at all even though they were in the manga.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,638 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@lurkero:
By that definition, you are being the judge of what is a filler based on your opinion of the episode. Not the contents of the episode. Filler is something added and not canon.

Also, One Piece only has filler episode placed in canon arcs. It doesn't then make the events canon. There was an episode from Loguetown that was based on a story that Oda wanted to add to the story, but he didn't have the time. Also, One Piece anime is based on a main manga story.

Code Geass is an anime series that was later developed into a manga. It would be like fans calling the second season of Code Geass filler just because they don't like the outcome.
Post by Lurkero (399 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@FoxxFireArt: That's completely true, that's why I called it "my" definition. No matter if the story originated in a manga or anime I consider it filler if there is no plot progression of any sort, which could be regarded as something subjective.

Your last statement doesn't hold however

Code Geass is an anime series that was later developed into a manga. It would be like fans calling the second season of Code Geass filler just because they don't like the outcome

In order for there to be an outcome, there has to have been some progression of an overall plot. I would never say something as all-inclusive as that. If you remember the events of the episode I mentioned I'd like to know if you thought it was as pointless of an episode as I did.
Post by zaldar (1,236 posts) See mini bio Level 15
I thought the episode you mention lurkero gave us good info into the characters and was quite funny.  (Assuming you mean the one I think you mean) but I can see how some people might not have liked it as it is quite different.  I will be interested to see what it is thought of here when we get to it.
Post by ninjadude853 (464 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@lurkero: That episode wasn't pointless, it was a breather, designed to mainly give everyone a break from all the heavy stuff going on at that point in the series before jumping back in. And it still had some plot developments,
EDIT: And it was pretty funny.
EDIT2: And it briefly showed Diethard meeting with Sayako, which also later effects the plot slightly.
Post by sharingan_eyes (330 posts) See mini bio Level 9
just keep watching...you'll see how "good" Suzaku has it later on lol
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