Watch & Learn: CODE GEASS #2

Topic started by No_name_here on April 11, 2011. Last post by endaround 3 years, 6 months ago.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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 Like Hector and Achilles... or Hogan and Warrior (depending on your tastes.) 
 Like Hector and Achilles... or Hogan and Warrior (depending on your tastes.) 

I’m glad to see the similarities Lelouch holds with Light extend into infeasible bouts of deductive reasoning, too. I’m sure he’s a smart one, but I don’t know if even a genius would even make the logical leap in realizing that people have to physically see his eyes for his “word of God” power to work on them. I’m sure he would’ve figured it on his own eventually, but it would’ve taken, you know, several bouts of experience, not just one.

Lelouch appears to be getting his own L in this episode with Suzaku san. I’m excited that the show’s already thrown this kind of curveball into the plot by introducing a counterpoint to the protagonist who’s actually a valiant man in spite of his allegiance to the enemy. Maybe even less so than a repeat of the cerebral cat and mouse of DEATH NOTE, I’m hoping for something capturingthe moral ambiguity you see in epics like THE ILLIAD. Not only is there room to root for Hector or Achilles in the fray, you also can’t dismiss either as the “villain” of the piece because they’re both heroes in their own right. To pile another comparison on, it’s like the hero vs. hero dynamic you got in the Hogan/Warrior match at WRESTLEMANIA XI.

You know that the pacing is great in a series when you get excited watching circles move on a battlefield map. I was really enthralled by the brutal dance of ambushes and counter-offensives between the Japanese and the British that ensues after each new mecha’s introduced. The designs of these armors might be fairly plain by comparison, but it’s an interesting gimmick to give them what amount to high-powered roller skates. The “bot battling” might not get as frenetic as EVA’s, but it’s certainly as fact paced and certainly a bit more tactical.

Alright, I’m sure this is going to be dealt with as the series unfolds… but is Lelouch supposed to be British? At first, I thought he was a Japanese noble who was being treated better by the Brittanians (or whatever they're called,) but this episode seems to suggest his Brittanian himself and possibly just a sympathaizer?

Watch this episode "The White Knight Awakens" below, decide for yourself and then read my comments on the previous episode here.  

  

Tom Pinchuk’s the writer of  HYBRID BASTARDS!  &  UNIMAGINABLE . Order them on Amazon   here  &   here .  Follow him on Twitter:  @tompinchuk

Post by WarlordPayne (33 posts) See mini bio Level 5
Yes, Lelouch is british.

I really liked the mech designs in the first half of the series, the skates and cables  made them stand out from a lot of other anime mechs for me.

I can't wait for you to get deeper into the series to see how you feel about Lelouch and Suzaku.
Post by Lurkero (415 posts) See mini bio Level 7
I loved the antagonist and protagonist relationship between Lelouch and Suzaku. Both like each other off the battlefield but on the battlefield they are opponents. The fact that Lelouch's cause seems more moral than Light's also helps.

Another thing I like about Geass is that the battles are interesting. There is a great deal of strategy that goes into the attacks and the show does well at balancing exposition and action (unlike shonen shows where the characters stop fighting to explain how they counterattacked and how their power works)
Post by PenguinDust (1,008 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Code Geass and Deathnote are two at the top of my pile of shame.  I want to watch them and there's no reason not to but I have some irrational bias against them.  I think it's the slavish devotion some people seem to have to these two shows and their two main characters being these practically all-powerful teens.  I know its moronic of me, but there you go.  I keep waiting for the negativity to subside so I can approach them with a clear and open mind.  I'm finishing up The World Only God Knows (season 1), so maybe I'll try Geass again after that.  It's not often I develop a distaste for a franchise from an aversion to its fanbase, and while logically I know it to be wrong, all I can do is wait for those feelings to diminish.  They did eventually with the Legend of Zelda, so I know I watch these two at some point in the future. 
Post by endaround (19 posts) See mini bio Level 7
LeLouch is who he say he is at the end, royalty on the very far edge of succession.  As expected his motives will become much more cloudy.

Anyone who attends the school save Suzaku is assumed British.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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@WarlordPayne said:
" Yes, Lelouch is british.
Oh good. It's hard for me to tell when his teeth are so straight and he isn't wearing union jack underwear.
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@lurkero said:
.Another thing I like about Geass is that the battles are interesting. There is a great deal of strategy that goes into the attacks and the show does well at balancing exposition and action (unlike shonen shows where the characters stop fighting to explain how they counterattacked and how their power works) "
Get ready for this new Kamayamaya I've spent the past five years mastering in practice!
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@PenguinDust said:
" Code Geass and Deathnote are two at the top of my pile of shame.  I want to watch them and there's no reason not but I have some irrational bias against them.  I think it's the slavish devotion some people seem to have to these two shows their two main characters being these practically all-powerful teens.  I know its moronic of me, but there you go.  I keep waiting for the negativity to subside so I can approach them with a clear and open mind.  I'm finishing up The World Only God Knows (season 1), so maybe I'll try Geass again after that.  It's not often I develop a distaste for a franchise from an aversion to its fanbase, and while logically I know it to be wrong, all I can do is wait for those feelings to diminish.  They did eventually with the Legend of Zelda, so I know I watch these two at some point in the future.  "
Zelda has an abrasive fanbase?!!?
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@endaround said:
" LeLouch is who he say he is at the end, royalty on the very far edge of succession.  As expected his motives will become much more cloudy.

Anyone who attends the school save Suzaku is assumed British.
"
Duly noted.
Post by ninjadude853 (464 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Oh yeah there's a lot of moral ambiguity in this series. I can only name one, maybe two genuinely good characters. And only a few evil ones. I love that about this show.

EDIT: Also, is figuring out that Geass require eye contact really that impressive? I always though it was pretty obvious
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,645 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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You will start to notice some drastic differences between Lelouch and Light pretty quickly. For one thing, their motives. Light may of started with good intentions, but was eventually all about his own glory. even going so far as to kill good people to get it. Lelouch isn't just in this for himself. There is someone he's fighting for that you got a brief glimpse of before.

Lelouch is a royal prince of Britannia but he hates the imperial power structure and that extends to all people of nobility. That's why he was playing that guy in chest to start. He enjoys playing these people who think they are better than others to humiliate them. He was thought to of been killed during the invasion on Japan.

@Tom_Pinchuk said:

" @WarlordPayne said:

" Yes, Lelouch is british.
Oh good. It's hard for me to tell when his teeth are so straight and he isn't wearing union jack underwear. "
And no one is playing Yakety Sax while he runs around. Though, there is one scene in season two that would of been perfect to have it playing.
Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Hey Tom, do you think you could maybe put a short rundown of the events of the given episode behind a spoiler tag? Usually its easy to remember what we saw last, but Geass is convoluted enough that it can be hard to remember when one thing starts and another ends. 

Edit: Never mind, just skipped to the end of the episode and that was reminder enough. Any thoughts on other characters we have met so far?
Post by sotyfan16 (1,341 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Whenever I watch this series I get jacked. This series is so awesome. The story is gripping, the animation is really good (thank you Sunrise), and the first season has a nice mix of fanservice and action. I can't wait to buy the boxset.
Post by kashif1 (1,813 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@lurkero said:
".Another thing I like about Geass is that the battles are interesting. There is a great deal of strategy that goes into the attacks and the show does well at balancing exposition and action (unlike shonen shows where the characters stop fighting to explain how they counterattacked and how their power works) "
In the one on one fights maybe, but lelouches commanding  abilities fall apart if you start thinking about them.
for example
Post by zaldar (1,291 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@kashif1:  thats the thing about this show....it works as long as you don't think about it to much.

@tom boy am I glad you reminded me they don't tell you who he is at the begining of the show...was about to spoil that for you.  Yes he is British and we will leave it at that for now.  As for incredible deductive powers of reasoning.  Yea, you have seen nothing yet....that part gets particularly ridiculous in a couple episodes.  Much like death note at times I had to bring out pen and paper to diagram how they got from point a to b (and many times even when I did that it didn't make much sense). 

I do look forward to hearing your thoughts on the interplay between the two mains as well.  Their interaction was what made this show for me, and allowed me to get past some of the sillier parts.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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@ninjadude853 said:
" Oh yeah there's a lot of moral ambiguity in this series. I can only name one, maybe two genuinely good characters. And only a few evil ones. I love that about this show.EDIT: Also, is figuring out that Geass require eye contact really that impressive? I always though it was pretty obvious "
Well, after a couple tries. Not immediately.
Post by No_name_here (856 posts) See mini bio Level 11
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@FoxxFireArt said: 

Lelouch is a royal prince of Britannia but he hates the imperial power structure and that extends to all people of nobility. That's why he was playing that guy in chest to start. He enjoys playing these people who think they are better than others to humiliate them. He was thought to of been killed during the invasion on Japan.

He's a teeenager. Maybe he's just doing it to impress a girl.
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@AgentJ said: 
Edit: Never mind, just skipped to the end of the episode and that was reminder enough. Any thoughts on other characters we have met so far?
Lelouch is paradoxical. He's "Britanianian" yet symapthetic to the Japanese. He's supposed to be British, yet he has a French name.

Post by AgentJ (1,545 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@Tom_Pinchuk said:
" @AgentJ said: 
Edit: Never mind, just skipped to the end of the episode and that was reminder enough. Any thoughts on other characters we have met so far?
Lelouch is paradoxical. He's "Britanianian" yet symapthetic to the Japanese. He's supposed to be British, yet he has a French name.

"
I don't know if you noticed, but in the beginning of these episodes, I believe there is a world map, demonstrating that the "Britanian empire" comprises most of the world, including all of Europe and the Americas. So the idea of his name being French isn't too far-fetched, especially as we go on in the series. 
Post by endaround (19 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Tom_Pinchuk said:
" @AgentJ said: 
Edit: Never mind, just skipped to the end of the episode and that was reminder enough. Any thoughts on other characters we have met so far?
Lelouch is paradoxical. He's "Britanianian" yet symapthetic to the Japanese. He's supposed to be British, yet he has a French name.

"
Hell the current British Royal family is German
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