Cell solar system busting possible?

Topic started by CoolnTwisted2k20 on Nov. 2, 2011. Last post by gokuboss 4 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Stop derailing this thread. Flagged again.

it's useless i'm infinite , you are lost . don't you understand ?, now that you can't beat me with your insulting arguments ,( your rude comments don't affect me and are too funny for me ) , you are flagging me because you think the mods will ban me , this is pathetic , you must stop right now. it's for your own good. you can't do anything to change this situation.

Post by yeah_u_whelmed (18 posts) See mini bio Level 5

@SilverGalford: Needless to say you were flagged again. You're being flagged for trolling, and derailing this thread. And no i don't understand you. Nobody does.

Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@yeah_u_whelmed said:

@SilverGalford: Needless to say you were flagged again. You're being flagged for trolling, and derailing this thread. And no i don't understand you. Nobody does.

i'm not trolling ,you hypocrite , you are trolling . many people here knows that . if i asked them what they think about you , you would know the answer. you started doing this and you won't stop.

Post by All_StarSupes (770 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Just because you say you can bust a solar system doesn't mean you can actually do it. Cell never showed anything like the kind of power needed to achieve such a feat. Nobody in the manga came close to such a feat.

Post by Yup_U_Whelmed (10 posts) See mini bio Level 6

@All_StarSupes: fair enough

Post by Butcher_Pete (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5
Now Im curious what fan calcs did you use to reach these galaxy busting numbers?
Post by CoolnTwisted2k20 (46 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@King of Snipers

Okay, so let's just say that Earth is bigger than Namek. Last I checked Frieza's death ball attack which was hardly comparable in size to Planet Vegeta took out that puppy no problem. It sank in and exploded within it. And guess what Goku in the Cell saga is far stronger than Frieza. Diameter of Z-fighters blasts or any Z character doesn't matter rather it's the power behind them. That's the thing people are being to tender when making observations of Z blasts. No different than n00bs who underestimate Saint Seiya and saying they're not as fast as they say are.

Another calculation:

You basically think we should be comparing the volume of Earth to the volume of the Solar System...instead of the diameter of Earth to the diameter of the solar System.

For instance, Our Sun is only 109x Earth in diameter, but is 1,300,000x Earth in Volume. meaning you could fit 1,300,000 Earth's inside of it.

If an 18,000 powerlevel can bust Earth, then it should take 18,000 x 1,300,000 powerlevel to bust the sun, and not 18,000 x 109. That would come out to a powerlevel of 23,400,000,000.

Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

on panel , cell didn't bust a solar system and he didn't show something close to that.

Post by EganTheVile1 (1,511 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Should this really be a battle topic?

Seems like this should just be tagged to the Cell character topics since he is not fighting anyone in particular

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Post by Butcher_Pete (51 posts) See mini bio Level 5
He's fighting a solar system.
Post by CoolnTwisted2k20 (46 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@SilverGalford said:

on panel , cell didn't bust a solar system and he didn't show something close to that.

Nor did the gold saints in Saint Seiya. And yet their Athena Exclamation is said to be a big bang level blast. That type of remark from both attacks goes both ways.

I'm awaiting for debunking for my calculation.

Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@CoolnTwisted2k20 said:

I'm awaiting for debunking for my calculation.

There isn't anything to debunk, using the random numbers Toriyama created solely for the purpose of saying "This guy is stronger than this guy" and pretending there is actual significance behind them is pointless. We don't know enough about what said numbers mean to use them for any sort of math. Doubt that Athena Exclamation is anything like the hype behind it claims to be though, given the "Big Bang" stuff in fiction so far as I have seen tends to be nothing like what the Big Bang was.

Cell is going to need some better feats outside blowing King Kai's planet up to say he's going to envelope a solar system in some sort of massive Ki blast that thus far, no one in the DBU canon has even shown capable of to begin with.

Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19

I don't believe Cell could bust a solar system at all. He never displayed power anywhere near solar system busting and just because he simply boasted that he could doesn't make it true. Villains are known for being arrogant and they boast all the time. Just like Frieza when he was boasting that he was the strongest in the universe even after SSJ Goku made a fool of him and just how Cell was boasting when SSJ2 Gohan made a fool of him. The fact that Cell simply claimed he could blow up the entire solar system doesn't show any facts.

Also, this doesn't belong in the battle forums. It's a discussion not a battle. This should be under Cell as a discussion/thread.

ND

Post by All_StarSupes (770 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Did anybody in manga destroy a solar system in one blast?

Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@All_StarSupes said:

Did anybody in manga destroy a solar system in one blast?

No and nobody in DBZ has shown something close to that.

Nor did the gold saints in Saint Seiya. And yet their Athena Exclamation is said to be a big bang level blast. That type of remark from both attacks goes both ways.

I'm awaiting for debunking for my calculation.

i think it's a mini big bang. as hellos said , people tend to hype saint seiya characters. however, if we have a look at the powers of saint seiya characters , then we can at least have something.

Post by CoolnTwisted2k20 (46 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@Hellos:

There isn't anything to debunk, using the random numbers Toriyama created solely for the purpose of saying "This guy is stronger than this guy" and pretending there is actual significance behind them is pointless. We don't know enough about what said numbers mean to use them for any sort of math. Doubt that Athena Exclamation is anything like the hype behind it claims to be though, given the "Big Bang" stuff in fiction so far as I have seen tends to be nothing like what the Big Bang was.

If you doubt the whole big bang stuff why don't you ask the OBD they seem to be all up on the Saint Seiya series verses nuts nowadays.

@SilverGalford

According, to what's heard from SS fans most of the powers of their attacks are said to be concentrated thus why we don't see how destructive they are.

Post by xlab3000 (1,393 posts) See mini bio Level 10

plus cell can blow up a solar system how if shoots that kamehameha towards the sun it would cause a supernova and a supernova blows up a solar system you have to calculate the mass of the planets and stars to determine how much they can blow up piccolo with a pl of 322 destroyed the moon with a simple ki blast and roshi with pl of 139 destroyed the moon with a full power kamehameha so we subtract the 2 pl and we get 183 so your pl needs to be 183 to bust the moon and the earth is 3.7 times heavier than the moon so you need pl of 677 to destroy the earth and the sun is 332,946 times heavier than the earth do so your pl needs to be 230,000,000 to blow up the sun and the sun(center of solar system) causes a supernova and it blows up a solar system so cell is at least a star buster and 100% full power frieza pl is 200,000,000(stated in daizenshuu) his pl in the manga was 120,000,000 because he was weakened by the spirit bomb also stated in daizenshuu I'm getting tired of people saying those are hyperboles when they are stated in the manga databooks anime and by the author/creator himself/herself

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,246 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@xlab3000:

Where did is it stated? I have already look it up in the daizenshuu (solar system)

I getting tired of people saying they see it in the daizenshuu and don't post it

Post by xlab3000 (1,393 posts) See mini bio Level 10

go to wikipedia to see the was and divide the earth's mass by the moon's mass and sun's mass divide by the earth's mass and multiply the power levels, I wasn't talking about the solar systen being in the daizenshuu I was talking about frieza's pl to help prove my theory since cell is many times stronger than frieza

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,246 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@xlab3000:

Oh ok, next time make it clearer :(

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