Is Bleach Sexist?

Topic started by takashichea on Nov. 11, 2013. Last post by Sreenivas 9 months ago.
Post by takashichea (11,700 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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Okay, guys and gals, this is a sad attempt by me for the Bleach Discussion (Manga)'s hot topics. I haven't read or watch Bleach after the end of the Fake Karakura Town arc.

Feel free to lay down your thoughts since this topic was a bit controversial. I don't blame you, and I'm not doing the anti-feminist thing. I had this weird pattern about Bleach that popped out in my head around 3AM, and I had the urge to post it.

Damsels in Distress

Beware of spoilers!

I was recalling the fun days of watching Bleach back in Adult Swim before it turned a bit stale. I thought about the story arcs in Bleach. Two of them have this trope.

Note: I haven't read or seen Fullbring arc or the rest of the fillers after the Bount arc. I might missed some stuff.

Rukia Kuchiki

Rukia is one of my favorite gals in Bleach. She's tough as nails and has a wicked Zanpakuto, Sode no Shirayuki, that freezes her target. She saved Ichigo's ass plenty of times. I can't help wonder about the whole goal of the Soul Society arc, rescuing Rukia before she was executed. In my mind, I was yelling "come on, Rukia. Bust out of jail and rebel against your bro." It feels weird that Rukia isn't fighting back.

Lastly, enjoy this video of Ichigo's reunion with Rukia. Notice how he treats Rukia. Guys, that's power of love right there.

Orihime Inoue

After Soul Society arc, Ichigo and the gang encounter a group of new enemies called Arrancars, your hybrid versions of Hollows and Shinigami in a sense. Guess what happens, Orihime gets kidnapped. It's up to Ichigo and his gang to rescue her. Loved how Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez and Ulquiorra interacted with Orihime. Compared to Rukia, Orihime is a healer who provides support for her teammates. She is no warrior like Rukia when she didn't put up any resistance to Aizen's group.

Edit:

Nel teaching Ichigo how to treat ladies as equals

In the end, both gals give up until Ichigo arrive and show them a glimmer of hope (to fans who ship them, too.) I don't have a full knowledge of the series, but it seems that Kubo likes to add some romantic damsel in distress in these major story arcs.

I have to cut this short. Sorry, I got to hit the hay for Veteran's Day celebration for the Church.

Don't take this blog seriously. I'm just kidding with you guys and gals. (my sarcasm is bad)

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

I actually agree with this analysis. (Though it doesn't happen in all the arcs)

Post by AnimeDefender (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Never thought as Rukia as a damsel in distress............... kawaii!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by MarioRedfield (1,730 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Well, duh.

Post by Acura_Max (2,326 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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I wouldn't say so. You got still got strong characters like Soi Fon and Yoruichi Shihoin. Both of whom are not only strong, but leaders of organizations. I would say it's more a case of Kubo running out of ideas. From what I heard, he never intended Bleach to be this long.

Post by bigz007 (1,088 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@takashichea: Great topic.

I don't think Bleach is sexist, every girl in Bleach have their own personality and powers. They can exist on their own without clinging to others. There is some romance of course, but that doesn't make it sexist. Just like Ichigo saved Rukia and Orihime, they were there for him when he needed them. Orihime actually brought Ichigo back to life several times, and Rukia saved him from Byakuya.

I wanted to do the same topic but with Hitman Reborn. I didn't done it yet because I wanted to watch it to the end. Just a quick thought about it... Unlike in Bleach where girls are also fighting like equals, in Hitman Reborn girls are cooking and washing laundry while guys are doing their fights. How is that for sexist?

Post by takashichea (11,700 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@supernova7005:

That's good to hear. I better get back on Bleach.

@AnimeDefender:

Agree with you there.

@Acura_Max:

I was only kidding. I know Bleach has strong women. Awesome pics by the way. I like how One Piece is all over the place.

@bigz007:

Hitman Reborn sounds bad for setting female role models.

Post by phantomrant (1,326 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Dun think Bleach is sexist. Kubo has a good balance between both genders and very few have to rely on a man figure.

It's just that he does give poor treatment to some characters like Orihime and Tatsuki and left Rukia as an object of fanservice when she's not fighting.

Post by sickVisionz (4,256 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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Everything is sexist if you squint hard enough.

Rukia is a bad example. She was a soldier. She was given an order. That's why she wasn't fighting back. Outside of that, she's kicking ass and taking names with the best of them.

Orihime fits the damsel in distress, but having a woman being rescued isn't inherently sexist imo. Had it been a guy who was captured, would you call it sexist towards men? Males and females were kicking ass in that arc. Males and females go their ass kicked in that arc. Only one person got captured and they had to have a sex. It ended up being a female but that doesn't make it sexist.

Post by takashichea (11,700 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@sickVisionz:

You comment made my day. I shouldn't make this topic when I ran out of ideas. I finally got an idea for a hot Bleach topic.

Design Your Own Hollow/Visored Mask

Post by AnimeDefender (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@takashichea said:

sickVisionz:

You comment made my day. I shouldn't make this topic when I ran out of ideas. I finally got an idea for a hot Bleach topic.

Design Your Own Hollow/Visored Mask

On the hollow mask Thing......... Make It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,229 posts) See mini bio Level 21

I will say somewhat, Shonen Anime/Manga usually focus on the guys. So it will feel sexist

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,881 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Not sure if this is sexist or not. But, it's food for thought.

Post by nishi99 (1,638 posts) See mini bio Level 11

This sums it up.

Post by takashichea (11,700 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@nishi99:

I forgot to add Senna to Bleach's damsel in distress. I love Senna a lot. I don't know why.

@Destinyheroknight:

Yeah, Shonen series does it a lot, but I agree with the others, we got some strong women to balance the damsel in distress thing. I was thinking about Fairy Tail and Natsu saving Lucy's butt multiple times. Wendy did pretty good on her own. Damn, I regret making this blog.

I'm still thinking a hot topic for Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece manga discussion thread.

@SpeedForceSpider:

It's a little bit of both.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,881 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@takashichea: I'm convinced a bit now it is, but for some reason it isn't to the point where it's very noticeable IMO. Nice blog by the way pal, I now see it lol.

Post by nishi99 (1,638 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@takashichea: Senna is cute so i could see why you like her. As for the thread i think its a good topic for a manga like Bleach where there are so many damsels in distress compared to manga like Fairy Tail.

Post by takashichea (11,700 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@nishi99:

That's a good idea! We will make a blog of all the Damsels in Distress for the Shonen anime series to see which series has the most and the least.

Good job, I'll help you out with that project.

Post by katmic (333 posts) See mini bio Level 10

I will infinitely refer to bleach as sexist until they give Rukia something to do. Its like she only exists to be saved by Ichigo. She is always in that almost stage, almost saving the day, almost defeating the enemy, almost triumphing against the odds, before going down relatively easily while calling for ichigo to come save her. I wouldn't say having the female characters fight the same level of enemy as the males makes an anime nonsexist.

Most female characters in bleach are always fighting opponents on the same level as the males and they almost always lose. I don't think rukia, orihime and matsumoto have ever won a battle against a worthwhile enemy. Nami in one piece rarely fights anyone on luffy or zoro or sangi or even brook's level. But at least she wins. Just look at the full bring arc. While Zaraki fought a hulk of sorts, ichigo a bankai wielding foe, rukia was fighting an enemy that could bring stuffed animals to life. Pathetic.

Post by sickVisionz (4,256 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@katmic: Rukia beat an Espada. As for Fullbring, her opponent wasn't any lamer than anyone else. I think you're vastly overating magic PSPs, enchanted LV boots, and mystic clocks, and dastardly bookmarks as if those were amazing design ideas while Rukia had the sole moronic one. Also, Renji, Chad, and Ishida fail just as much as Rukia.

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