How do you think Bills changes DBZ in battle Forums?

Topic started by SMXLR8 on March 18, 2013. Last post by ImDictatorBowDown 6 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by nishi99 (1,705 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@debeze: I can't wait to see Wiss create or destroy one universe let alone more like they say.

Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20

I wanna see if Bills or Wiss are >>> a ssj3 Gogeta.

Post by GrayWolf2 (327 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Been doing as much research on spoilers for this movie as I can recently and just with the question the OP asks I can safely say YES. Because I found it interesting that there are now 12 universes and Bisuru is the weakest God of Destruction. Which means that in the end as powerful as this character is he really is just a next generation Raditz. Also on a side note: I am glad that my initial instinct that this Wiss character was more powerful than he seemed to be by a lot was true.

Post by SSJjanemba (2,176 posts) See mini bio Level 11

its gunna be dumb if goku just trains to beat this guy. i want a nice story not the usual "train to beat the bad guy"

Post by SMXLR8 (7,192 posts) See mini bio Level 16

@SSJjanemba said:

"train to beat the bad guy"

DBZ in a nut shell

Post by CerusSerenade (2,627 posts) See mini bio Level 10

I guess Akira wasn't satisfied with Goku being the strongest in the universe, but now of the multiverse.

Featherine would like to reject this script and sentence the entirety of DBZ to oblivion.

Post by ROBOT6661 (358 posts) See mini bio Level 7

a lot with this new movie DBZ becomes a universe with 12 gods who (if the spoilers are true) can at the very least destroy solar systems and maybe gallaxies

so it's gonna put the canon DBZ really up there

Post by Frieza (240 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Maybe Toriyama and his crew are trying to squash the endless fan debates of how "weak" and "not as strong as so and so" DBZ is.

I mean, if the original series isn't enough to silence the critics, perhaps the introduction of ACTUAL Gods will.

Also, with the trailers, it should silence any misinformation that Goku cannot survive in space. Clearly, him and Bills are fighting in space.

Hopefully, being in space, we will get some good speed feats as well. Traveling here to there in X amount of seconds, etc.

Post by Dream (7,634 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Judging from the info I'm finding, things aren't much different for DBZ with this movie for battle forums. Just a big case of overhype.

Post by Frieza (240 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@bigz007 said:

If it's said that Bills can eventually destroy a galaxy, that doesn't mean he is a galaxy buster.

For example: if a character is proven to be just a building buster and he destroys every building in city one by one, does that make him a city buster? I think NOT.

It's the same as this, Bills can destroy planets and by destroying them one by one, eventually destroy the whole galaxy. But is he a galaxy buster? lol nope

This is the same flawed logic that I see people use every single time. It's like, you all think that every single villain in DBZ is only a planet buster.

Using Frieza, who is a confirmed planet buster, in his weakest form with a power level of 530,000, how is he compared to someone like Bills? How can Bills only be a planet buster, when he takes out SSJ3 Goku effortlessly? Not only that, but it was confirmed by Toriyama that he is the strongest DBZ villain to date, and you are telling me that he is only a planet buster like Frieza? Get out of here.

When is it going to be sufficient enough for people to actually stop thinking that Frieza, Cell, Majin Buu and Bills are only planet busters?

I await that day. And when that day comes, I will throw a celebration. You are all invited.

Post by niBBit (664 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@Frieza said:

@bigz007 said:

If it's said that Bills can eventually destroy a galaxy, that doesn't mean he is a galaxy buster.

For example: if a character is proven to be just a building buster and he destroys every building in city one by one, does that make him a city buster? I think NOT.

It's the same as this, Bills can destroy planets and by destroying them one by one, eventually destroy the whole galaxy. But is he a galaxy buster? lol nope

This is the same flawed logic that I see people use every single time. It's like, you all think that every single villain in DBZ is only a planet buster.

Using Frieza, who is a confirmed planet buster, in his weakest form with a power level of 530,000, how is he compared to someone like Bills? How can Bills only be a planet buster, when he takes out SSJ3 Goku effortlessly? Not only that, but it was confirmed by Toriyama that he is the strongest DBZ villain to date, and you are telling me that he is only a planet buster like Frieza? Get out of here.

When is it going to be sufficient enough for people to actually stop thinking that Frieza, Cell, Majin Buu and Bills are only planet busters?

I await that day. And when that day comes, I will throw a celebration. You are all invited.

I agree with you. For example we have Perfect Cell saying that he could destroy a Solar System, people call that hyperbole but when you look certain comic book characters who also state that they can do this and they can do that thats apperently not hyperbole but fact dispite that character not showing that said feat. Its different if Cell had said that he's gonna nuke the entire universe because we can safetly say that he isn't that strong however, Cell being a Solar System Buster is not in the realm of fiction seeing as DBZ characters where blowing up moons and planets as early as the saiyan saga, like you said Frieza destroyed planet Vegeta, a planet larger than Earth with just 1% of his power and did it without breaking a sweat. IMO DBZ characters are a whole lot stronger than most people here onj the vice think and maybe i will create a new tread explaining why i think that but for now i will wait for the new movie to come out and see whats new.

Post by bigz007 (1,091 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@Frieza: Do you understand the difference between a planet and a galaxy? Even if a character can destroy 100 planets in one hit that is still not nearly enough to destroy a galaxy in one hit. You have a flawed logic. You think that if a character is more than a planet buster, he immediately becomes a galaxy buster. Galaxy is much more harder to destroy than a planet for two reasons:

1st reason and the most obvious one: because the galaxy is much, much more bigger than a planet

2nd reason: for explosion to happen it's essential to have oxygen, because without oxygen there is no explosion. Because of that reason planet is relatively 'easy' to destroy, and since a galaxy is mostly one vacuum place with temperature of absolute zero and obviously without oxygen, there is so much harder to actually destroy a galaxy.

Think about the whole concept of a galaxy, it's not that fragile as you think.

@niBBit: You can't be more wrong. Cell is a planet buster and it's said that he can destroy a Solar System, but that is only if he destroy all the planets one by one. I believe this whole concept of destroying a Solar System means he can destroy all life in it, but he still doesn't have nearly enough force to actually destroy the Solar System.

Post by Frieza (240 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@bigz007: TL;DR because you used real world physics to try and explain a fictional cartoon.

Post by bigz007 (1,091 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@Frieza: hahaha you didn't read it because you know I'm right. It's not just real physics, it's logic.

P.S. next time when you start to debate be ready to hear the other side opinion.

Post by Frieza (240 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@bigz007: Okay. If that's what helps you sleep at night, cool guy. Saying that you're right and everyone else is wrong.

Again, you failed when you tried to include any sort of logic or real world physics into a fictional cartoon.

Your arguments have absolutely no basis other than extreme prejudice and bias. Clearly, the show delivers enough evidence in and of itself to exclude anyone much more powerful than Frieza of simply falling into the category of being a planet buster.

And just for teh l0lz

Post by ImDictatorBowDown (1,918 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@bigz007: If Vegeta could destroy Earth during the Saiyan Saga I don't think it is out of the question to say that Cell can bust a star the size of the Sun, effectively destroying the solar system. Hell even Cooler in the Movie (though non canon) stated he could.

Post by bigz007 (1,091 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@Frieza: Why are you so mad? Why is it so hard for you to hear opposite opinion? You still don't know how to debate and your probably just a child.

@ImDictatorBowDown: I never said any of DBZ characters can't destroy a galaxy. They are so OP that they probably can. I just want to prove that if a character is stronger then a planet buster that still doesn't make him a galaxy buster. I said this already for comparison but here is it again:

if a character is proven to be just a building buster and he destroys every building in city one by one, does that make him a city buster? I think NOT.

I hope you understand what I want to say.

Post by Frieza (240 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@bigz007 said:

@Frieza: Why are you so mad?

I heard your opinion. Again. It was biased prejudice. You classified every single DBZ villain as being just planet busters. That's where you failed.

Post by bigz007 (1,091 posts) See mini bio Level 20

@Frieza: Try reading my posts again. Clearly you missed something.

Post by Frieza (240 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@bigz007: Or you don't understand your own writing.

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